GDT 9-21: Going for a Motor City Sweep on NFL Week 3

jpx7 said:
I’m fine with giving him the Profar contract. He’s really lengthened the lineup, with a minimal defensive downgrade from Allen.

And the upshot is it would show the FO can work with Boras, which could then pay dividends when negotiating with Cease.
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This all day.
 
Fine.

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DOB is an idiot, but he wrote this about a potential new Kim contract: "An offer in the three-year, $65 million range would presumably be a minimum starting point — or they could offer a one-year deal with a significantly higher salary than the option price, to entice him to stay with the Braves and boost his free-agent price in a year."
 
Strider and elder basically the same in xERa, FIP, and xFIP this season.

In September,
Strider: 2.35 era, 3.88 FIP
Elder: 2.92 era, 2.66 FIP

Any chance elder passes strider for next season? Probably more likely neither are starters.
 
Hudson2 said:
If he does and AA lets him and we tank again then they both need to go. The window has been wasted enough.
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Totally agree. If he returns, the team better be better than this shit. And AA absolutely has to invest in the depth to overcome his tactical flaws.
 
msstate7 said:
Strider and elder basically the same in xERa, FIP, and xFIP this season.

In September,
Strider: 2.35 era, 3.88 FIP
Elder: 2.92 era, 2.66 FIP

Any chance elder passes strider for next season? Probably more likely neither are starters.
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Someone needs to take this website away from you, lmao. What even is this? Strider is coming back from major surgery and trying to find his rhythm again. He’s got a track record of being elite (though I don’t think he’ll ever reach that level again). Meanwhile, Elder is basically an innings-eating dumpster fire - he’s awful 80% of the time and a smoke-and-mirrors ace the other 20%. Judging Strider based on this season alone is just ignorant. Let's see what he does in the off-season. He can be an extremely good No. 2 with a few tweaks.
 
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UNCBlue012 said:
Someone needs to take this website away from you, lmao. What even is this? Strider is coming back from major surgery and trying to find his rhythm again. He’s got a track record of being elite (though I don’t think he’ll ever reach that level again). Meanwhile, Elder is basically an innings-eating dumpster fire - he’s awful 80% of the time and a smoke-and-mirrors ace the other 20%. Judging Strider based on this season alone is just ignorant. Let's see what he does in the off-season. He can be an extremely good No. 2 with a few tweaks.
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I think strider could end up a reliever or a back end starter. I think that's more likely than front end starter.
 
I would love some examples of guys that came back from TJ/brace that didn't have their velocity, but got it back the next season. I wanna believe. I really do
 
msstate7 said:
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I think strider could end up a reliever or a back end starter. I think that's more likely than front end starter.
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The only way Strider becomes a reliever is if he puts up a 6 ERA across two years (which isn’t happening). He’s getting paid to be a starter. I just don’t see a world where he’s anything less than a solid No. 3 on a good team - he’s too smart and his repertoire is too solid. Pitchers with worse stuff thrive in this league. Plus, Spencer has been a positive by both bWAR and fWAR this year… so, no more propaganda, please.
 
msstate7 said:
I would love some examples of guys that came back from TJ/brace that didn't have their velocity, but got it back the next season. I wanna believe. I really do
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There aren't really examples because it's not often done. I also don't think Spencer needs to hit 98 to be dominant. Sure, it helps; but getting consistent break on his fastball is way more important. And also not something I think he will have an issue doing with a full off-season.
 
UNCBlue012 said:
The only way Strider becomes a reliever is if he puts up a 6 ERA across two years (which isn’t happening). He’s getting paid to be a starter. I just don’t see a world where he’s anything less than a solid No. 3 on a good team - he’s too smart and his repertoire is too solid. Pitchers with worse stuff thrive in this league. Plus, Spencer has been a positive by both bWAR and fWAR this year… so, no more propaganda, please.
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Which one is elder? Which one is strider?
 
That fastball run value should scare us all. Strider still getting great whiff on the slider and curve is reason to be hopeful, but if the fastball is done, he probably is too
 
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