Some Red State/Blue State Indicia

sturg33 said:
I mean how do we fix this??

https://twitter.com/x/status/2037294367875153968
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I mean did you read it? You can disagree with the ruling, But he was charged with Manslaughter, that doesn't carry a long sentence. He's been in jail since his arrest so he already had time served coming.

So he wouldn't have been charged with first degree murder (that was a bad call to try to bring up) I don't think second would have stuck.

What would you say legally this man was guilty of? It was involuntary man slaughter. You have to believe his intent was to kill this man

The failure was not figuring out what else to charge this man. Hate crime should have been out there but probably wouldn't stick. There should have been some form of leaving the scene of a crime or some other issue.
 
zitothebrave said:
I mean did you read it? You can disagree with the ruling, But he was charged with Manslaughter, that doesn't carry a long sentence. He's been in jail since his arrest so he already had time served coming.

So he wouldn't have been charged with first degree murder (that was a bad call to try to bring up) I don't think second would have stuck.

What would you say legally this man was guilty of? It was involuntary man slaughter. You have to believe his intent was to kill this man

The failure was not figuring out what else to charge this man. Hate crime should have been out there but probably wouldn't stick. There should have been some form of leaving the scene of a crime or some other issue.
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welp, I guess we're choosing not to fix this.

I feel bad for Antoine's next victim
 
sturg33 said:
welp, I guess we're choosing not to fix this.

I feel bad for Antoine's next victim
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being found guilty of manslaughter is one level of crime.
But being found guilty of manslaughter while brown should be a crime of uh nuther level.
By the logic of Apartheid Boy.

But , raping under age girls while rich is a whole other.
Punishable by turning a blind eye to it because the political opponent is not only " colored' but perish the thought, a woman
 
sturg33 said:
welp, I guess we're choosing not to fix this.

I feel bad for Antoine's next victim
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No, how would you charge this person? How would you go about it?

If you want to argue that California's involuntary manslaughter sentencings are too soft, I can see that. But what else do you think is truly wrong? You skirted around it.
 
zitothebrave said:
No, how would you charge this person? How would you go about it?

If you want to argue that California's involuntary manslaughter sentencings are too soft, I can see that. But what else do you think is truly wrong? You skirted around it.
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I would charge him with murder.

I would not have reduced his sentence from 8 years

Everything about it is mercy for a monster
 
It is fixed. We live in a country where the pitchforked mob have to earn their way onto a jury Just like the lily white church to protect the innocent of being railroaded.

Not Based on, color religion, political preference, gender or even immigration status.
 
sturg33 said:
I would charge him with murder.

I would not have reduced his sentence from 8 years

Everything about it is mercy for a monster
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How was it murder?

Was it premeditated? Not proven, so that eliminates first degree murder and Voluntary Manslaughter.

2nd degree murder you could maybe convince a jury. But they didn't. Nor did they convince them of elder abuse.

Looking at the facts you see involuntary manslaughter as the main thing.

He served 5 years, he was going to get out, he gets the maximum sentence, likely the reality,

www.cbsnews.com

Man convicted in 2021 killing of "Grandpa Vicha" in San Francisco to be released on probation

The man convicted in the 2021 killing in San Francisco of an elderly Asian man known as "Grandpa Vicha" was set to be released on probation.
www.cbsnews.com www.cbsnews.com

"Legal expert Shannan Dugan noted that Watson's conviction on involuntary manslaughter meant the sentence was not going to be lengthy.

"For involuntary manslaughter, the sentence is two years, three years, four years in the state prison. And my understanding is that the defendant had already served five years," said Dugan. "So on that count, the judge had effectively sentenced him on the max and added another year on enhancement and then five years of probation." "

What did the judge do wrong? They tried to get this man charged with murder, elder abuse, etc. and didn't.

I think on the big picture, a suspended sentence contingent on him attending therapy and gaining employment is better than forcing him to live out the last 3 years. But maybe I'm just an optimist.
 
his come up pence.

As a police he murdered someone on camera.
Protect and serve on it's ear

I'm not defending this mans crime or his sentence, but the decision based on law easily understandable.
And not at all on par with Chauvin situation
An apple is not a banana
 
sturg33 said:
I WOULD NOT HAVE REDUCED HIS SENTENCE A SINGLE DAY
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So you'd rather have him serve under 3 years in jail, additionally, there's a chance his lawyer could have appealed that he deserved good time/work credits, which reduces at least 15% of the sentence. so 15% of 8 years is reduced to 6 years and rounding up 10 months. He's served over 5 years in jail already as he was arrested basically end of january 2021. So he basically has served already 5 years and 2 months so assuming he doesn't do anything naughty in jail, he is released in a year and 8 months. You think that's better for the world and community than him being forced to become a sane and contributing member of society, otheriwse he has to serve the full sentence and wouldn't get out on good time.

I mean again, call me an optimist, but I think it is the best result given that the prosecution couldn't get anything to stick they needed to.
 
57Brave said:
his come up pence.

As a police he murdered someone on camera.
Protect and serve on it's ear

I'm not defending this mans crime or his sentence, but the decision based on law easily understandable.
And not at all on par with Chauvin situation
An apple is not a banana
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correct what Antoine did was much worse
 
zitothebrave said:
So you'd rather have him serve under 3 years in jail, additionally, there's a chance his lawyer could have appealed that he deserved good time/work credits, which reduces at least 15% of the sentence. so 15% of 8 years is reduced to 6 years and rounding up 10 months. He's served over 5 years in jail already as he was arrested basically end of january 2021. So he basically has served already 5 years and 2 months so assuming he doesn't do anything naughty in jail, he is released in a year and 8 months. You think that's better for the world and community than him being forced to become a sane and contributing member of society, otheriwse he has to serve the full sentence and wouldn't get out on good time.

I mean again, call me an optimist, but I think it is the best result given that the prosecution couldn't get anything to stick they needed to.
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I would have put him away for life as a judge... but that didn't happen. So I would have maximized his sentence because I guarantee you this person commits another crime within the next 3 years

But you're always gonna go to bat for the murderer
 
sturg33 said:
I would have put him away for life as a judge... but that didn't happen. So I would have maximized his sentence because I guarantee you this person commits another crime within the next 3 years

But you're always gonna go to bat for the murderer
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So you cannot legally as a judge sentence someone for life for a crime that has a maximum sentence not close to that.

California has a maximum 4 year sentence for involuntary manslaughter

California Involuntary Manslaughter- California Penal Code Section 192(b)

California Involuntary Manslaughter Law under Penal Code Section 192(b) Explained in Detail. Learn the definition of the charge along with potential punishments and legal defenses as explained by licensed California Criminal Defense Attorneys.
www.kannlawoffice.com www.kannlawoffice.com

California has a maximum 4 year sentence for felony Assault


Again as I said way back then, you could argue california's laws are weak.

But you're again, not versed on this. You're just showing your whole ass.
 
At a distance, , I would guess the charge of murder, premeditated, was not provable.
Perhaps by law, this is as good as it was going to get.
Prosecutors cherish wins.
Had they taken your advise, he would have walked.
 
zitothebrave said:
So you cannot legally as a judge sentence someone for life for a crime that has a maximum sentence not close to that.

California has a maximum 4 year sentence for involuntary manslaughter

California Involuntary Manslaughter- California Penal Code Section 192(b)

California Involuntary Manslaughter Law under Penal Code Section 192(b) Explained in Detail. Learn the definition of the charge along with potential punishments and legal defenses as explained by licensed California Criminal Defense Attorneys.
www.kannlawoffice.com www.kannlawoffice.com

California has a maximum 4 year sentence for felony Assault


Again as I said way back then, you could argue california's laws are weak.

But you're again, not versed on this. You're just showing your whole ass.
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Yes California is a joke. It's why this story is in the states thread. It is entirely run by democrats and democrats are pro-criminal
 
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