Gay Marriage - blacks perspective

KeithLockhart said:
Tim Scott may not be as vitriol and stupid as Allen West, but politically I have no doubts he was picked to fill in for Demint to show black people in the South "hey the Republican Party has room for black people too! See we aren't racist!!!" And I'm not speaking in general about GOP voters, I'm speaking about the machine and the guys behind closed doors that are trying to "diversify" the GOP. Preibus and Rove see that the GOP is on the verge of losing ethnic minorities for a LONG LONG LONG time with the current cast of clowns in charge running for President in 2016. The past 4 years of coded language against the President caught up to them, as they thought they could use white fear to unseat Obama and elect Romney. Georgia and SC are too of the closest states in the deep south to becoming purple since they have plenty of highly concentrated areas of urban population. Georgia might be the first in the deep south to vote blue soon. Don't think GOP leaders don't see that... which is exactly why Tim Scott was picked and exactly why they kept bringing up the fact Haley was Indian-AMerican. Oh and let's not forget she had people in her own Party in SC use the race card against her. LOL

Scott isn't a loudmouth, all he has to do is not really do anything and he can keep his seat for a long time holding (R) in South Carolina.

Fox News holds Ben Carson on a pedestal because he can be "the black guy" that can sound reasonable. It's funny because Michael Steel was that GOP Black Guy in the late 2000's. When Obama was elected, there were voices in the GOP that said "Why not Michael Steele"? Republican Governor of Maryland that happens *cough* to be black *cough*. He won them the House in 2010, then he gets fired and he no longer can hold back what he thinks about the Tea Party and the extremists and now he's an outcast and replaced by a huge idiot like Preibus. GOP LOVED Michael Steele... now that he's a contributor for MSNBC the mainstream GOP has kind of forgotten about him.

Allen West was only loved by the Tea Party because he didn't have to use coded language to attack the President and Pelosi because he was "black". They used him to get West to say what they've REALLY REALLY wanted to say all along about POTUS and Pelosi.

Jindal was supposed to be "one of the new leaders" to fight against Obama in 2009. They hyped him up because he wasn't a middle aged white guy in the South.They gave him the Republican Response to Presidential Address, and people found out once he opened his mouth he was just a boring guy. Then over the years people started to realize he was just a typical old deep south Republican in an Indian guy's body.

I'd bet everything that if Bobby Jindal and Ted Cruz used their real names running for office (Piyush Jindal) and (Rafael Cruz), that many voters in their own party would have turned against them since their real names sounded like illegals. Bobby and Ted... hmm where do those names sound familiar? Bobby & Ted or Piyush & Rafael.
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Good post, some great points and then some that made my head scratch. So I checked up this Tea Party since I never really understood what they were about unless I read the post on here on who they are, but this strikes me as sensible if the party is about this:

"They are also concerned about government overreach with programs such as Obamacare, unnecessary and unlawful surveillance of citizens, blatant and unchecked abuse by the Internal Revenue Service, and government cover-ups and media complicity."

These are all true statements. So is the media feeding us bunk about certain parties because they go against the status quo? Say it isn't so. On Obamacare, the issue with that is they rushed a law through without studying it thoroughly, lest me remind you of Pelosi infamous statement about passing the law which at her position is really stupid, but coming from her, doesn't surprise me.
 
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with how upset you are about the founding of PP

it is amazing that any of you could like this country at all then with how it was founded
 
I'm not wild about that either, or the Revolutionary War for that matter.

That aside, it seems my pointing out the obvious vileness of Sanger, her eugenics and the origin of Planned Parenthood bothers you. Why? Do you like Sanger or something? Or maybe you don't like someone describing the less than admirable aspects of the history of something you like. Is that it?
 
Personally don't care about founders of an organization if the end result of the organization is good. How many NASA scientists were Nazi scientists first? Or to quote from Archer

Cyril: Krieger's father was a Nazi scientist!
Malory: And JFK's father was a bootlegger.
Cyril: That's like comparing apples to... Nazi oranges!
Malory: Oranges, exactly! Do you like powdered orange breakfast drink?
Cyril: No, not really.
Malory: How about microwave ovens, Neil Armstrong, hook-and-loop fasteners?
Cyril: OK, you lost me...
Malory: None of those things would have been possible without the Nazi scientists we brought back after World War II.
Cyril: The Nazis invented Neil Armstrong?
Malory: Rockets! Which put him on the moon. After the war ended, we were snatching up kraut scientists like hotcakes. You don't believe me? walk into NASA sometime and yell "Heil Hitler!" WOOP! They all jump straight up!
 
BedellBrave said:
Well if you think the their black genocide is a good thing....

One,

Two,

Three...
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I think that what planned parenthood does today and something said by it's founder is not always relevant.

Do you use a phone? Alexander Graham Bell was a proponent of Eugenics.
 
Perfectly relevant.

"Planned Parenthood is the largest abortion provider in America. 78% of their clinics are in minority communities. Blacks make up 12% of the population, but 35% of the abortions in America."

"Over 86 years, the Ku Klux Klan lynched 3,446 blacks – a figure matched in less than four days if tallying the number of black babies who are aborted."
 
and when an upper middle class Caucasian woman has a pregnancy she chooses to end -- Unwanted pregnancies are unwanted pregnancies -- those with means have more options than those with less. In the 1920's as well as now. Anyone willing to pull up the discrepancy in adoptions and how children of color stay in the adoption system longer than Caucasian children

Personally, I think speaks more to class than to color. If fellow Brave fans here would like to discuss how people of color generally populate the lower class strata --- we could do that too.
But I don't think some would enjoy that conversation as much as say ----------- getting to point a finger at someone unable to point back
 
Lots of little children can't point the finger back at you, that's for sure.

It's not an either/or when it comes to whether PP targets class or color. It's a both/and. I mean after all got to clean up things. Don't need a bunch of poor black babies that will turn into thugs or redneck babies that might end up voting R.

If there were enough trailer parks clustered together you better believe PP would put them a clinic there.

Clean is the word.
 
Oh, and 57, the reason why there are so many African Americans that populate the lower class strata is in great part because of our heinous history of slavery, failed opportunities after the Civil War, segregation and racism.
 
BedellBrave said:
Oh, and 57, the reason why there are so many African Americans that populate the lower class strata is in great part because of our heinous history of slavery, failed opportunities after the Civil War, segregation and racism.
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And the Dems have to keep it that way to ensure their vote count.
 
BedellBrave said:
Perfectly relevant.

"Planned Parenthood is the largest abortion provider in America. 78% of their clinics are in minority communities. Blacks make up 12% of the population, but 35% of the abortions in America."

"Over 86 years, the Ku Klux Klan lynched 3,446 blacks – a figure matched in less than four days if tallying the number of black babies who are aborted."
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And all they do is abortions.
 
No, but they do 1 every 94 seconds or so. That's a lot of poor black, white and hispanic babies. Last numbers I saw were about 1/3 of a million a year.

Clean. Gotta be clean.
 
AerchAngel said:
Good post, some great points and then some that made my head scratch. So I checked up this Tea Party since I never really understood what they were about unless I read the post on here on who they are, but this strikes me as sensible if the party is about this:

"They are also concerned about government overreach with programs such as Obamacare, unnecessary and unlawful surveillance of citizens, blatant and unchecked abuse by the Internal Revenue Service, and government cover-ups and media complicity."

These are all true statements. So is the media feeding us bunk about certain parties because they go against the status quo? Say it isn't so. On Obamacare, the issue with that is they rushed a law through without studying it thoroughly, lest me remind you of Pelosi infamous statement about passing the law which at her position is really stupid, but coming from her, doesn't surprise me.
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Living as I do in a place where lots of folks self-identify as Tea Party supporters, I'd say that a VERY sunny assessment.

Nikki Haley is my governor. I think she's a smart and capable person and politician, though I abhor her politics. She lost me when she made the drug-testing of unemployment recipients a thing, told a whopper of lie about it, then refused to be accountable when called on it. There's no way she gets elected in SC if she's on the ballot as "Nimrata Haley."

I've got nothing particularly bad to say about Tim Scott. I'm not going to vote for the guy, but he hasn't shown his ass in any particularly meaningful way at this point. Better him than DeMint, I suppose.
 
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