I really don't care about the issue or lack thereof. You are just saying "common knowledge." Where is the proof? Bill Polian and Flacco? The world being flat was common knowledge at one time.
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I really don't care about the issue or lack thereof. You are just saying "common knowledge." Where is the proof? Bill Polian and Flacco? The world being flat was common knowledge at one time.
I really doubt that commentary is from John Keim. http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/1...gton-redskins-4-6-weeks?ex_cid=espnapi_public
Also, Hatchers contact is 10.5 million guaranteed.
Tapate50
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You don't even rotoworld bro?
zitothebrave
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You really just don't get it.
You don't my friend. YOu are comparing these mobile QB's to players like Vick who can't throw the football for the life of him. RG3/Kaep are very unique.
Yeah but Thier value lies in the fact that they are mobile QB's. Take away Thier speed and they won't be nearly as good. Qb's that run more or more likely to get hurt.
Or the ability to run just adds value.
zitothebrave
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No you don't.
Vick runs the ball, Kaepernick runs the ball, RG3 runs the ball. RG3 and Kaepernick run the ball nearly 100 or more times a year, that's much closer to Vick than it is to McNabb, Elway, or Young who McNabb had the highest season fo the group with 86. Though he was more regualrly in the 50-60 range. Those guys' peak seasons haven't touched what RG3 and Kaepernick have done already and who knows if they'll run more. I think Kaepernick has a better shot than RG3 I've said that more than once.
zitothebrave
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If RG3 couldn't run he wouldn't have gone in the first day of the draft.
zitothebrave
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Falcons traded Akeem Dent for TJ Yates. Biggest possible addition by subtraction.
yeezus
It's OVER 5,000!
Doubt he ever performs at that level again. He isn't young and had 1 good year in a contract year.
yeezus
It's OVER 5,000!
That's very debatable.
For one, we don't know what how good they actually are/will be throwing the ball. RG3 and Kaep have 2 yrs of data to go from (1.5 years in the case of Kaep).
Vick, Cunningham, etc. all had variable amounts success throwing the ball over their careers. Vick was up for MVP, what 3-4 yrs ago?
And regardless of any of that, the reason why these guys are comparable is that they run a very high amount and got injured frequently in their careers.
McNair, McNabb, Vick, even Young all missed significant time due to injuries in their career, more so than their peers at the time. I can't think of many pocket QBs who were good, that missed time quite as frequently. May be Schaub, Warner (who was older when he came into the league), Bledsoe, and Trent Green are the most recent examples I can think of who were considered good QBs that missed significant time to injury. Even Brady and Peyton who missed 1 full season to injury, didn't miss any before or since then.
That's not true at all.
Trent Green, Cutler, Palmer, Rodgers (last year), etc. etc
zitothebrave
Connoisseur of Minors
Yes it is. If he couldn't run do you really think his arm alone is top shelf in the NFL? Much less his decision making.
What is wrong with his arm? He wouldn't have been the number 2 pick in the draft if he could only run.
So far (despite one year with a bum knee), he's thrown for 63% completion percentage, 229 yards per game, 7.5 ypa, 36 td, 17 int.
To compare to your boy(who was a year older) over his first 2 years:
60% completion percentage, 212 yards per game, 7.2 ypa, 38 td, 25 int
So far (despite one year with a bum knee), he's thrown for 63% completion percentage, 229 yards per game, 7.5 ypa, 36 td, 17 int.
To compare to your boy(who was a year older) over his first 2 years:
60% completion percentage, 212 yards per game, 7.2 ypa, 38 td, 25 int
zitothebrave
Connoisseur of Minors
Lol, if you think RGMe is better than Ryan his first 2 years you're a bigger twit than I ever expected. Then again you think RGMe last year was better than Ryan ever was.
RG3 was incredible his rookie season. Not sure how that can be debated. Last year he was recovering from an injury. If he regains even 90% of his athletic ability there is no doubt in my mind that I take him over Ryan moving froward. And I think Ryan is top 10.