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If we get Peavy, does it spell the end of McCann?

Without a doubt I think Peavy would move Mac out. And IMO we would still need a TOR guy who isnt so injury prone.

I wonder if Hudson will even try a comeback.

Hate to reopen this can of worms but IMO unless Uggla can be moved and in fairness lately its looking more positive that he can be traded, one of J Upton or Heyward will have to go as well. This team is hampered severely in carrying big contracts.
 
Without a doubt I think Peavy would move Mac out. And IMO we would still need a TOR guy who isnt so injury prone.
I wonder if Hudson will even try a comeback.
Hate to reopen this can of worms but IMO unless Uggla can be moved and in fairness lately its looking more positive that he can be traded, one of J Upton or Heyward will have to go as well. This team is hampered severely in carrying big contracts.

See, I think McCann is gone anyway. Plus, losing Hudsons contract, we are fine.
And as far as Uggla goes, where would we be without him right now?
 
Bud Norris is a good pitcher, but not the type of pitcher this team needs. He is the type of pitcher a team gets to add depth to their rotation so they can make the playoffs, not a pitcher a team adds to pitch in the playoffs.

I would argue he is worse than Minor, Beachy, Teheran, and Medlen. Surely Wren doesn't need to waste prospects on a 4/5 starter that won't start a single playoff game.
 
We have the flexibility to have both Peavy and McCann at a total of about 30M in 2014.

Payroll will rise about 15M due to national TV revenues. I'm assuming about half the extra revenue goes to payroll.

In addition the following contracts come off the books after 2013: McCann (12M), Hudson (9M), Maholm (6.5M), EOF (4.3M). That's a total of almost 32M.

If you do the math it becomes clear we can fit in McCann and Peavy, even with the arbitration and other raises coming in for other players.

To repeat there is room for both McCann and Peavy in 2014. And this room exists without need to move any of our current players under contractual control for 2014.
 
I dont know why there is no talk of trading for Santana or Sheilds from KC. Both are having great seasons and I would say that either one would come in and be the best pitcher we have. Santana is in the last year of his contract and Sheilds has a club option for 2014 with a $1 buyout.
 
We have the flexibility to have both Peavy and McCann at a total of about 30M in 2014.

Payroll will rise about 15M due to national TV revenues. I'm assuming about half the extra revenue goes to payroll.

In addition the following contracts come off the books after 2013: McCann (12M), Hudson (9M), Maholm (6.5M), EOF (4.3M). That's a total of almost 32M.

If you do the math it becomes clear we can fit in McCann and Peavy, even with the arbitration and other raises coming in for other players.

To repeat there is room for both McCann and Peavy in 2014. And this room exists without need to move any of our current players under contractual control for 2014.
OK But you are only postponing the inevitable. If you have Peavy and McCann and the rest of the big contracts in 2015 along with Uggla, Uptons, who do you move on of the young guys in who will be getting expensive.
 
I agree on Santana or Shields, but if Moore gives us Shields after giving up Myers to get him, he may as well go ahead and grab a cardboard box.
 
OK But you are only postponing the inevitable. If you have Peavy and McCann and the rest of the big contracts in 2015 along with Uggla, Uptons, who do you move on of the young guys in who will be getting expensive.

Peavy likely won't meet the conditions to trigger his 2015 options. He would be gone after 2014. Uggla is gone one way or the other after 2015.
 
I just really have no interest in Peavy or Norris. I don't see how they are an upgrade over what we have. Are we really getting better by trading valuable pieces for Peavy and moving Medlen to the pen? I would much rather keep Medlen in the rotation and trade for a reliever. I'll go to battle with Minor, Medlen, Teheran, Beachy, Maholm/Wood. I would have loved Garza tho.
 
Like the idea of Peavy and Beachy in the rotation, Wood and Medlen (when/if Maholm returns) in the bullpen.
 
Peavy has pitched very well in a hitter's league and a hitter's park. He'd immediately come in and be our first or second best pitcher.
 
Are we really getting better by trading valuable pieces for Peavy and moving Medlen to the pen?

Depends on what we trade for Peavy. I would not trade one of our Top 5 prospects for him. We might be able to get him for a couple second-tier guys. I would do that.
 
Shields, Peavy and Josh Johnson would all help us. I prefer the first two because they are also signed for next year.
 
Peavy has pitched very well in a hitter's league and a hitter's park. He'd immediately come in and be our first or second best pitcher.

Minor
Peavy
Teheran
Maholm
Beachy

Kimbrel
Walden
Medlen
Avilan
Wood
Ayala
Carpenter/trade

That's a strong pitching staff.
 
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