Ferguson....

When they have actual equal opportunities to advance as us. Not are imprisoned at a much higher rate, passed over because of their race, etc. Basically in America you have in not as tolerant areas 2 types of black peopel. The ones broken by the system who gave up, and the ones who push harder than anyone else cause they can't slack off like white folk.

Black people that go to school and don't talk in slang are benefited from the infastructure that this country affords.

Education and the ability to be well spoken are the keys. That's what all the black people who work at my company have in common. That's the key to balancing the scales and until these are the issues which are hammered home, not the perceived and actual inequalities that exist, only then will blacks succeed at a higher rate than they do now.
 
Worth repeating:

Voddie Baucham:

...The Plight of Black Men

Rest assured, I do believe there are systemic issues plaguing black men. These issues are violence, criminality, and immorality, to name a few. And all of these issues are rooted in and connected to the epidemic of fatherlessness. Any truly gospel-centered response to the plight of black men must address these issues first and foremost. It does no good to change the way white police officers respond to black men if we don’t first address the fact that these men’s fathers have not responded to them appropriately.

There is indeed an epidemic of violence against black men. However, that violence, more often than not, occurs at the hands of other black men. In fact, black men are several times more likely to be murdered at the hands of another black man than they are to be killed by the police. For instance, in the FBI homicide stats from 2012, there were 2,648 blacks murdered. Of those, 2,412 were murdered by members of their own ethnic group. Thus, if I am going to speak out about anything, it will be black-on-black crime; not blue-on-black. I want to apply the gospel and its implications in a way that addresses the real issue. If a few black men being killed by cops requires a national “dialogue,” what in the world does the overwhelming number of black-on-black murders require? If the police do not see black men through the proper gospel-centered, image-of-God lens, what does the black-on-black murder rate say about the way we see ourselves?

In addition to violence, black men are plagued with criminality. Low-income black communities like Ferguson know all too well that black criminals preying on their neighbors makes life almost unlivable. Growing up in South Central Los Angeles, I know all too well what it’s like to have bars on the windows and doors for fear that thugs will break in to steal or kill. I remember being robbed at gunpoint on my way home from the store one day. It was one of the most frightening and disheartening events of my life. The fear, helplessness, and anger I felt stayed with me for years. And it taught me an unfortunate lesson: the greatest threat to me was other black men.

The underlying malady that gives rise to all the rest of these epidemics is immorality and fatherlessness. We know that fatherlessness is the number one indicator of future violence, dropout rates, out-of-wedlock births, and future incarceration. And in the black community, more than 70 percent of all children are born out of wedlock! Fatherlessness is the bane of the black community.

Nor is this plague forced on us. It is as common as morning dew, and as overlooked as dust under a refrigerator. Where are the marches against this travesty? Where are the protestors who demand better? Where are the black “leaders” who . . . oh, that’s right, they have just as many illegitimate children as anyone else. Again, it is common knowledge that this is the most immediate root cause of the ills plaguing black Americans.

But What About Racism?

I have been pulled over by police for no apparent reason. In fact, it has happened on more than one occasion. I was stopped in Westwood while walking with a friend of mine who was a student at UCLA. We found ourselves lying face down on the sidewalk while officers questioned us. On another occasion, I was stopped while with my uncle. I remember his visceral response as he looked at me and my cousin (his son). The look in his eye was one of humiliation and anger. He looked at the officer and said, “My brother and I didn’t fight in Vietnam so you could treat me like this in front of my son and my nephew.”

Again, this experience stayed with me for years. And for many of those years, I blamed “the system” or “the man.” However, I have come to realize that it was no more “the system” when white cops pulled me over than it was “the system” when a black thug robbed me at gunpoint. It was sin! The men who robbed me were sinners. The cops who stopped me were sinners. They were not taking their cues from some script designed to “keep me down.” They were simply men who didn’t understand what it meant to treat others with the dignity and respect they deserve as image bearers of God.

It does me absolutely no good to assume that my mistreatment was systemic in nature. No more than it is good for me to assume that what happened in Ferguson was systemic. I have a life to live, and I refuse to live it fighting ghosts. I will not waste my energy trying to prove the Gramscian, neo-Marxist concept of “white privilege” or prejudice in policing practices.

I don’t care what advantages my white neighbor may or may not have. If he does have advantages, God bless him! I no more fault him than I fault my own children who have tremendous advantages due to the fact that they were raised by two educated, Christian parents who loved, disciplined, and taught them. Ironically, when I think about THAT advantage, I am filled with joy and gratitude to God for his faithfulness. People are supposed to bequeath an advantage to their children and grandchildren (Prov. 13:22). Why, then, would I be angry with my white neighbor for any advantage he is purported to have? And what good would it do? How does that advance the gospel? Especially in light of the fact that growing up with the gospel is the ultimate privilege/advantage! It is the advantage that has granted us all “American privilege”! Are we guilty for being citizens of the wealthiest republic in the history of the world? I think not!

As a father of seven black men, I tell them to be aware of the fact that there may be times when they may get a closer look, an unwelcome stop, or worse. However, I do not tell them that this means they need to live with a chip on their shoulder, or that the world is out to get them. I certainly don’t tell them that they need to go out and riot (especially when that involves destroying black-owned businesses). I tell them that there are people in the world who need to get to know black people as opposed to just knowing “about” us. I tell them that they will do far more good interacting with those people and shining the light of Christ than they will carrying picket signs. I tell them, “Never avenge yourselves, but leave it to the wrath of God, for it is written, 'Vengeance is mine, I will repay'” (Rom. 12:19). And I tell them that there are worse things than suffering injustice. That is why we must heed Peter’s words:

But in your hearts honor Christ the Lord as holy, always being prepared to make a defense to anyone who asks you for a reason for the hope that is in you; yet do it with gentleness and respect, having a good conscience, so that, when you are slandered, those who revile your good behavior in Christ may be put to shame. For it is better to suffer for doing good, if that should be God’s will, than for doing evil. (1 Pet. 3:15–17)

In the end, the best lesson my children can learn from Ferguson is not that they need to be on the lookout for white cops. It is far more important that I use this teachable moment to remind them that “God is not mocked, for whatever one sows, that will he also reap” (Gal. 6:7). Moments before his death, Michael Brown had violently robbed a man in a store. A man doing the best he could to make a living. Minutes later, Brown reaped what he sowed, and was gunned down in the street. That is the sad truth.

My sons have far more to fear from making bad choices than they have to fear from the police. The overwhelming majority of police officers are decent people just trying to make a living. They are much more likely to help you than to harm you. A life of thuggery, however, is NEVER your friend. In the end, it will cost you . . . sometimes, it costs you everything.
 
What word is okay to use for those who are violent or threaten to use violence, are given to use aggression rather than wit or kindness, and have little regard for rules or laws?

Seems like a fine word to use. Suppose we could go with "ruffian," "punk," or "hooligan." But it won't be long before they are considered racist too I suppose.

Excellent post.
 
Black people that go to school and don't talk in slang are benefited from the infastructure that this country affords.

Education and the ability to be well spoken are the keys. That's what all the black people who work at my company have in common. That's the key to balancing the scales and until these are the issues which are hammered home, not the perceived and actual inequalities that exist, only then will blacks succeed at a higher rate than they do now.

Yes, but you're ignoring the root causes of the issue. It's not from lack of effort, they have ****ty schools, bad parents, etc.
 
What word is okay to use for those who are violent or threaten to use violence, are given to use aggression rather than wit or kindness, and have little regard for rules or laws?

Seems like a fine word to use. Suppose we could go with "ruffian," "punk," or "hooligan." But it won't be long before they are considered racist too I suppose.

Criminal would be a good one, bully, etc. thug is a strictly black term
 
Yes, but you're ignoring the root causes of the issue. It's not from lack of effort, they have ****ty schools, bad parents, etc.

There you go coddling black people again like they are as helpless as babies: Excuses, excuses, excuses,

Funny how so many successful blacks have overcome what you just talked about but for the rest of them there are excuses.
 
You missed BedellBraves' point. Whatever term that is used will eventually be called "racist" by you libs. Yes, even the word "criminal" would eventually be racist in your eyes.

every single person in this country is a criminal
 
Yes, but you're ignoring the root causes of the issue. It's not from lack of effort, they have ****ty schools, bad parents, etc.

The root cause of the "issue" is not the reason why so many blacks are in the situation they are in. They are in that situation becaues they are convinced they can't get out and give up.
 
Criminal would be a good one, bully, etc. thug is a strictly black term

It really isn't - but I know that's what some want to make it out to be. Criminal is too broad as you've already noted various crimes that can be committed. Bully doesn't necessarily capture the idea of lawless. But anyway, whatever term is okay by you - start using it a lot and it will soon enough be verboten.
 
There you go coddling black people again like they are as helpless as babies: Excuses, excuses, excuses,

Funny how so many successful blacks have overcome what you just talked about but for the rest of them there are excuses.

Funny how you clearly don't get it. Just because one or 2 out of a 1000 people make it out doesn't mean it's possible for everyone. It's flatout ignorant to not consider the issues that arise.
 
The root cause of the "issue" is not the reason why so many blacks are in the situation they are in. They are in that situation becaues they are convinced they can't get out and give up.

Because they get knocked down and have been getting knocked down for generations. Imagine if your dad came to the US and got his ass kicked, then you got your ass kicked, you think your kids would have a shiny outlook? Imagine that having gone on for 150 years.
 
It really isn't - but I know that's what some want to make it out to be. Criminal is too broad as you've already noted various crimes that can be committed. Bully doesn't necessarily capture the idea of lawless. But anyway, whatever term is okay by you - start using it a lot and it will soon enough be verboten.

Why do you feel there's a special need to label someone?
 
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