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I predict a deal with the Astros:

BJ Upton, Gattis and some cash

for

Dexter Fowler and Rio Ruiz

Sign Markakis to a 4 year 45 million dollar deal. Sign Peavy to a one year deal. Stick with Justin for one more season. I think that would allow us to be competitive next year and give us a lot of flexibility for 2017 and beyond.

That is literally my prediction s well and honestly, I'm not against it.
 
I predict a deal with the Astros:

BJ Upton, Gattis and some cash

for

Dexter Fowler and Rio Ruiz

Sign Markakis to a 4 year 45 million dollar deal. Sign Peavy to a one year deal. Stick with Justin for one more season. I think that would allow us to be competitive next year and give us a lot of flexibility for 2017 and beyond.

Championship caliber I say!
 
He was among my top buy low trade targets to replace Heyward, of course we got Markakis instead. This off-season is getting better and better.

Saunders has done nothing to show he's a better option than Markakis... in fact the only year he was a full time player for a full year, he was awful... last year was his best year but he didn't even get 300 at bats. Nothing in his career to suggest he's a reliable starter.
 
Saunders has done nothing to show he's a better option than Markakis... in fact the only year he was a full time player for a full year, he was awful... last year was his best year but he didn't even get 300 at bats. Nothing in his career to suggest he's a reliable starter.

Talking Saunders vs. Markakis without considering age/cost is missing the point, IMO.
 
Saunders has done nothing to show he's a better option than Markakis... in fact the only year he was a full time player for a full year, he was awful... last year was his best year but he didn't even get 300 at bats. Nothing in his career to suggest he's a reliable starter.

I can see why you accuse others of cherry picking stats. I mean I guess it's better to do so before they can call you on it, lol.

That said, Saunders has had an OPS of .720-.791 the last three seasons. While that is nothing special it looks better considering where he plays. Plus he hit 19 homers there a few years ago so it isn't out of the question that he'll hit for power outside of Seattle. But what makes Saunders a solid buying low choice overall in a trade is also his age/cost and the defense he provides along with the offense in right field. He's much better than Markakis defensively in RF. Markakis range has been bad for quite a while now, he's put up a -13 DRS in right field the last three years. Saunders on the other hand has shown good range numbers in right field and put up a positive 7 DRS there in only 480.2 innings last year.
 
I'd have taken both and played Saunders in CF. Cause Saunders IS better than a BJ.

While Saunders is a good right fielder and could be solid defensively at either corner spot. He isn't a true centerfielder, he put up a -29 DRS and lacked range there over the last three years.
 
I can see why you accuse others of cherry picking stats. I mean I guess it's better to do so before they can call you on it, lol.

That said, Saunders has had an OPS of .720-.791 the last three seasons. While that is nothing special it looks better considering where he plays. Plus he hit 19 homers there a few years ago so it isn't out of the question that he'll hit for power outside of Seattle. But what makes Saunders a solid buying low choice overall in a trade is also his age/cost and the defense he provides along with the offense in right field. He's much better than Markakis defensively in RF. Markakis range has been bad for quite a while now, he's put up a -13 DRS in right field the last three years. Saunders on the other hand has shown good range numbers in right field and put up a positive 7 DRS there in only 480.2 innings last year.

Again... the age/cost thing I get... but production still is not anymore a sure than than it is from Markakis.
 
Steamer projects Saunders at 2.5 WAR (in 580 PAs) and a .729 OPS in 2015.

The 2015 projection for Markakis is 1.3 WAR (in 679 PAs) and a .728 OPS.

So let's be generous and call it a wash. But then there are small details like cost, length of contract, age.
 
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