GM/Winter Meetings Thread

drewdat said:
Call it a gut feeling.
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Hart isn't going to sign a SP until he knows the returns for Gattis and/or JUp because a SP may very well be part of the return for either. So if we see Hart sign a SP we can logically assume the two sluggers (or at least one of them) are staying in Atlanta.
 
nsacpi said:
Volquez, Peavy, Brett Anderson, Harang and Vogelsong still out there. I've listed them in order of preference.
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I don't like that list at all, given what's been reported that the better ones on that list are asking. The possible exception may be Anderson, I haven't heard much on him. How about you? I would be okay signing him on a one year deal, possibly with an option year, depending on the price.

BTW, I have no interest in Harang unless it is for 1 million again as I believe last year was mostly a fluke. He is asking for too much money and at least two year deal now too. So that leaves him off my list entirely.

Note, I also believe Hale could do just as good or better in the rotation as most on that list. In fact, if you put a good defender at second and third (replace CJ there), then he'd do even better being a ground ball pitcher with Simmons and overall better infield defense behind him.
 
nsacpi said:
About 6M/projected win. Except for Lester that has been the going rate for pitchers.

For FA hitters it has been closer to 9M/win.

Last off-season pitchers were getting paid more. There has been a big change this year.
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Seems like the shift to a truly pitching dominant league has happened. The 4.07 runs per game in 2014 was the lowest since 1981. Pitching is everywhere right now so legit hitters are at a premium and it's finally reflecting that in salaries. It's why I would do my best to lock up Upton right now. The chances of getting a hitter as good as him anytime soon is remote.
 
thewupk said:
Seems like the shift to a truly pitching dominant league has happened. The 4.07 runs per game in 2014 was the lowest since 1981. Pitching is everywhere right now so legit hitters are at a premium and it's finally reflecting that in salaries. It's why I would do my best to lock up Upton right now. The chances of getting a hitter as good as him anytime soon is remote.
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See my comment this aft in the Upton thread.
 
Trade Gattis for prospects and sign Peavy to a 2 year contract and lets do this thang... with the worst bottom half of a lineup in the history of any baseball team ever in any league. Including T-Ball.
 
I wish I could somehow be confident BJ could actually turn it around... if that could happen and we could trade Gattis and CJ, we could really have a net upgrade on the team... I don't think its impossible. I do think hitting coaches have more influence than people think...
 
Heyward said:
SP, lineup is better.
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I guess it could be argued the lineup is a slight bit better (could also be easily argued ours is)... but the Mets do not have a better rotation... definitely not. Wheeler is still inconsistent and who knows how Harvey will come back. Outside of them, there is nothing special there
 
weso1 said:
Trade Gattis for prospects and sign Peavy to a 2 year contract and lets do this thang... with the worst bottom half of a lineup in the history of any baseball team ever in any league. Including T-Ball.
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I don't know... I think alot of people forget how horrendous alot of lineups were in the late 80s and early 90s... I mean, when the Braves went worst to first in '91, the lineup was atrocious in today's standards. Obviously defense and pitching made up for a lot and we do not have that caliber at the moment in either spot.
 
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