Smoltz elected to Cooperstown along with Pedro, Unit, and Biggio.

Have said it before, the writers will wait to induct Rivera or Jeter as the first to get 100%. They will "break the tradition" of no unanimous to save for a Yankee.
 
bravesnumberone said:
I think Schilling belongs, too. My whole point is this whole "I'm not gonna vote the guy first ballot" is pure horse****. If a guy is worthy, you vote him in right away. If you want some kind of special wing in the HOF for 10 greatest of all time or whatever, knock yourself out. I think most baseball fans are intelligent enough to understand who the greatest of the greats were. Smoltz is a HOF. Schilling is one, too. They shouldn't have to wait 2-3 years so a bunch of old ****s can prove a point.
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I agree 100%. I would vote for 10 most deserving guys if there are 10.
 
zitothebrave said:
With all the money rolling in from the board I'm gonna be drinking some The Macallan 25 for my contributions.
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In all seriousness, I have a bottle of Macallan 30 year old 1824 series sitting on my shelf at home. If anyone ever wants to come have a sip of some of the best single malt scotch you'll ever taste, I'm game.

I also have a bottle of Johnny Walker Blue King George V Edition-- that's a good one too.
 
ramadon101 said:
In all seriousness, I have a bottle of Macallan 30 year old 1824 series sitting on my shelf at home. If anyone ever wants to come have a sip of some of the best single malt scotch you'll ever taste, I'm game.

I also have a bottle of Johnny Walker Blue King George V Edition-- that's a good one too.
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gross

still can't get into scotch

maybe one day though but nice offer sir

if i liked scotch, i would take you up on the offer
 
ramadon101 said:
In all seriousness, I have a bottle of Macallan 30 year old 1824 series sitting on my shelf at home. If anyone ever wants to come have a sip of some of the best single malt scotch you'll ever taste, I'm game.

I also have a bottle of Johnny Walker Blue King George V Edition-- that's a good one too.
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I'm free that night. When is it again?
 
zitothebrave said:
Lemme break it down for you.

Smoltz - 3473 IP 3.33 ERA 81 ERA- 7.99 K/9 2.62 BB/9 78 FIP- 73 xFIP- 78.7 fWAR 66.5 rWAR

Schills - 3261 IP 3.46 ERA 80 ERA- 8.60 K/9 1.96 BB/9 74 FIP- 72 xFIP- 83.2 fWAR 80.7 rWAR

BOth are HOF worth, but Schillign is just better.

People will point to the post season, Smoltz does have better overall PS stats cause he pitched in more games. Smoltz pitched in 41 PS games, totaling 209 innings 199Ks 67 BBs and a 2.67 ERA. Schilling was a force to be reckoned with come the post season too, 19 Games 133.1 IP 120 Ks 25 BBs 2.23 ERA. I personally give Schilling the PS edge too, as he has more Complete games, shutouts and 3 rings 2 of them he was arguably the most important pitcher on the team.
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Smoltz is arguably the greatest post-season pitcher in history. Smoltz essentially pitched another entire season worth of games in the postseason. 200 innings, 199 K's, 67 BB's, and 2.67 ERA would be good enough to win the the Cy Young in most seasons, and he did that in the post season vs baseball's elite teams.
 
Carp said:
Smoltz is arguably the greatest post-season pitcher in history. Smoltz essentially pitched another entire season worth of games in the postseason. 200 innings, 199 K's, 67 BB's, and 2.67 ERA would be good enough to win the the Cy Young in most seasons, and he did that in the post season vs baseball's elite teams.
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Did you just ignore Schilling's stats?
 
Don't get me wrong, Smoltz's postseason stats are amazing, but so are Schilling's too. If Schilling had more tickets to the dance in his younger years it would have been better most likely.
 
Schilling was great in the postseason too. I just feel like it's a slight against Smoltz to not realize he was likely the greatest post season pitcher ever. And that most certainly factors into the voting for HOF. That, and the fact that Schilling never won a Cy Young (not that he didn't deserve to a few years).
 
Schilling has 3 rings and carried the D-Backs on his back in 2001. He deserves way more props for his post season pitching.
 
Schilling has a more impressive overall postseason resume. I wonder how differently Smoltz would be viewed if the Braves win Game 7 in '91 1-0.

As for better overall, I'm going with Smoltz. He was an elite starter and then a nearly untouchable closer. The list of guys who have done that is very small.
 
Smoltz was as impressive as it gets in the post-season. In '91 if Lonnie Smith doesn't lose track of TP's big hit and make a baserunning mistake, then Smoltz wins that game 7 and TP gets the game winning hit. Oh well.

That said, Schilling was great too and certainly HOF worthy himself.
 
zitothebrave said:
Schilling has 3 rings and carried the D-Backs on his back in 2001. He deserves way more props for his post season pitching.
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Rings are hardly a way to judge postseason prowess.

Smoltz carried the Braves staff virtually every single post-season as well. 27 starts. Only 5 of those starts did he allow 4 runs or more. Allowed 5 runs only twice. Never allowed allowed more than 5 runs.
 
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