McGuirk Says Braves 'All In' On Youth Movement

Julio3000 said:
“I remember years ago when we made the shift, in turning to youth and enthusiasm,” McGuirk said. “And it only took about 15 minutes for the fan base to get with it – they totally embraced it. But it was hard to make that (full) transition, because we still had a lot of veterans from the winning years. And now, we’re in a position where we can be all-in on youth and enthusiasm. And I think you’ll see that from here on out, starting with all the John Hart moves.

When is he talking about, exactly?
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Baby Braves?
 
nsacpi said:
I would take it a step further and say that we shouldn't promote guys to the majors if it means weakening the minor league depth that Hart has worked so hard to build.
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Again, the depth theoretically will continue to be there now that the right people are back.
 
Julio3000 said:
“I remember years ago when we made the shift, in turning to youth and enthusiasm,” McGuirk said. “And it only took about 15 minutes for the fan base to get with it – they totally embraced it. But it was hard to make that (full) transition, because we still had a lot of veterans from the winning years. And now, we’re in a position where we can be all-in on youth and enthusiasm. And I think you’ll see that from here on out, starting with all the John Hart moves.

When is he talking about, exactly?
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Kimbrel bout to be packin.
 
With that in mind I wish the Braves would get their messages straight. On the one hand you've got McGuirk essentially saying it's a complete rebuild, but then on the other you've got JS and Hart saying it's not a complete rebuild.
 
weso1 said:
With that in mind I wish the Braves would get their messages straight. On the one hand you've got McGuirk essentially saying it's a complete rebuild, but then on the other you've got JS and Hart saying it's not a complete rebuild.
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And you've got Dalyn saying it's a Mukaki rebuild. Who to trust?
 
Julio3000 said:
“I remember years ago when we made the shift, in turning to youth and enthusiasm,” McGuirk said. “And it only took about 15 minutes for the fan base to get with it – they totally embraced it. But it was hard to make that (full) transition, because we still had a lot of veterans from the winning years. And now, we’re in a position where we can be all-in on youth and enthusiasm. And I think you’ll see that from here on out, starting with all the John Hart moves.

When is he talking about, exactly?
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I enjoy the spin control youth AND ENTHUSIASM!

Who isn't pumped to see BJ, Nick, Johnson, and crew?
 
Tapate50 said:
Personally, I'm always excited to see Braves baseball.
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I think we'll see a lot of different guys this year, and some intriguing players for the future.
gilesfan saying he doesn't care to see is the epitome of the type of "fan" he is.
 
weso1 said:
With that in mind I wish the Braves would get their messages straight. On the one hand you've got McGuirk essentially saying it's a complete rebuild, but then on the other you've got JS and Hart saying it's not a complete rebuild.
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Yep, McGuirk's talking points aren't completely at odds with what Hart has been saying, but there is definitely an opportunity to better align the message.

As for the prospect that Liberty / McGuirk have instituted a payroll reduction, I think these concerns are unfounded at the moment. The current payroll # is impossible to pin down since we don't know which players on split contracts will make the team (Wandy, Stults, KJ), we don't know how Minor's arby case will play out, and we don't know which players with incentives will hit them (almost every player under contract has performance and / or award bonuses . . . some of them significant). The range of outcomes currently looks to be between $99m and $105m, and it'll likely end up close to the middle of that range.

Cot's has our 2014 payroll at $112m. Given our interest in Hector Olivera, it seems to me that our baseball ops folks are free to spend $110m or so this year if they see fit.
 
Nothing says "all in" on a youth movement like an OF over 30 coming off a neck issue, bringing back Kelly Johnson, signing one of the biggest pricks in baseball to be a backup veteran catcher. All the while trading three good hitters under 30.

Enough with the bull****. You've wrecked the team so we can get back to where we were in two years, supposedly. Own it and quit trying to put some ridiculous spin on it.
 
With that in mind, I vote we trade Freeman and Kimbrel for four great young arms coming off TJ and sign Fred McGriff, so he can reach 500 home runs, and people will put him in the HOF. McGriff was my boy back in the day.
 
bravesnumberone said:
Nothing says "all in" on a youth movement like an OF over 30 coming off a neck issue, bringing back Kelly Johnson, signing one of the biggest pricks in baseball to be a backup veteran catcher. All the while trading three good hitters under 30.

Enough with the bull****. You've wrecked the team so we can get back to where we were in two years, supposedly. Own it and quit trying to put some ridiculous spin on it.
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The youth movement is going to start in 2016 moving onward. Everything that has happened this offseason with the vet signing was to enurse the right lessons are taught to the kids on the team and not bottom out and lose too much money before 2017
 
thethe said:
The youth movement is going to start in 2016 moving onward. Everything that has happened this offseason with the vet signing was to enurse the right lessons are taught to the kids on the team and not bottom out and lose too much money before 2017
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Bottoming out would make us win sooner. Getting those top 5 draft picks with our new awesome scouting department would get us future superstars.
 
thewupk said:
Bottoming out would make us win sooner. Getting those top 5 draft picks with our new awesome scouting department would get us future superstars.
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Bottoming out would not work with the fickle fans of atlanta. Still need buts in the seats and the team has already completely revamped the farm system in one season.
 
thethe said:
Bottoming out would not work with the fickle fans of atlanta. Still need buts in the seats and the team has already completely revamped the farm system in one season.
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What everyday players are "putting butts in the seats" this year other than Freeman?
 
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