Hector Olivera signs with the Dodgers

mfree80 said:
Certainly don't want to argue, but: 62.5-28=34.5/6=5.75.

Perhaps the $28M signing bonus is not accurate, but that is where I came up with an average annual value of less than $6M.
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You're right. My math was bad. Was thinking 4 years instead of 6 for some reason.
 
sturg33 said:
I'll take the under. Our team did not get better
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I think it's fair to say our team underperformed last yr along with having some glaring weaknesses in the lineup. You can't strikeout the most in the league and get on base among the least in the league and expect to field a good offense.

You might think our offense would automatically be worse by trading away 3 of our 4 best hitters. However, our offense realistically can't be much worse than it was last yr, a year in which we finished 2nd to last in the league. I might even dare to say that it's possible we could finish with a slightly better offense than we did in 2104.
 
We could be around the same team we were last year, record-wise, pretty easily.
Simmons could easily improve, and a lot. He had a terrible season. It's also very possible Peterson gets on base at the top. Freeman is really good. Markakis isn't a terrible hitter. I do have little hope for CJ, and BJ doesn't have a strong probability to improve. We'll see about Beth, but I don't think he will hit much. The pitching should be strong, but it is still really young.
 
mfree80 said:
If I read it right... less than $6M per year after the reported $28M signing bonus.

I would say that makes it a very tradeable contract after the bonus is paid.
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The only problem with that line of thinking is...

If he's performing badly enough that you'd be willing to trade a $6 million/year player, it's not likely to be a very tradeable contract. See - Johnson, Chris.
 
gilesfan said:
No, but you still need big hitters with power. This idea that the Braves are going to win in the future with a bunch of speedy hitters that make contact is lunacy.
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I must be missing something here. Didn't the Royals just come off a World Series trip with a total of three players who reached double-figures in HRs???
 
clvclv said:
The only problem with that line of thinking is...

If he's performing badly enough that you'd be willing to trade a $6 million/year player, it's not likely to be a very tradeable contract. See - Johnson, Chris.
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Chris Johnson doesn't have the contact and OBP skills nor ability to play as many positions (and play them well) that Olivera brings a team. The main position CJ plays he's pretty much a statue bringing bad defensive value (among the worst at his position defensively). All this along with his terrible season at the plate is why no one wants him right now.
 
clvclv said:
I must be missing something here. Didn't the Royals just come off a World Series trip with a total of three players who reached double-figures in HRs???
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Sure, it can be done. But that team would require great pitching and defense. With a little luck thrown in.
 
Enscheff said:
Problem is that the FA class heading into the 2017 season isn't looking too great (they could obviously trade for expensive players though).

If the Braves want to sign a couple top line FAs, next offseason is probably the time to do so. And they should be bad enough this year to have a protected draft pick next year, so they won't lose their first pick by signing a couple a couple legit FAs next offseason. Yes, that means guys like Price, Heyward and JUp.

If I were going to guess, I would say the Braves need to acquire a TOR starter and at least 2 middle of the order bats in their prime before 2017 to have any real chance to compete by then. Those players can be acquired through trade or FA next offseason or the one before the 2017 season, but they need to be acquired.
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We dont need pitching, and we arent getting JUp or Heyward.

Probably trade some assets for a bat is a better bet.

Or sign someone like Fowler.
 
zbhargrove said:
Plus the 28mm signing bonus, though
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It would only be a little over 10 million per year including that 28 million signing bonus. But in reality it is 28 million bonus and about 5.75 million or so per year. So they paid a lot up front as far as signing bonus for a low AAV.
 
@JesseSanchezMLB · 19m 19 minutes ago
Source: A recent MRI on Olivera's elbow showed slight tear in UCL. Led to clause that gives Dodgers a seventh season at $1M if he needs TJ.

@JesseSanchezMLB · 12m 12 minutes ago
Hector Olivera has said all along that he feels fine & does not have a problem with his elbow. Says he's worked out for teams without issue.

J.P. Hoornstra @jphoornstra · 12m 12 minutes ago
LRT: it's a team option for the seventh year. Not guaranteed, per source. #Dodgers #Olivera
 
Braves1976 said:
Chris Johnson doesn't have the contact and OBP skills nor ability to play as many positions (and play them well) that Olivera brings a team. The main position CJ plays he's pretty much a statue bringing bad defensive value (among the worst at his position defensively). All this along with his terrible season at the plate is why no one wants him right now.
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I'd prefer to see Olivera play at this level of competition before I'd commit to that. I still remember Brad Komminsk.

The point still remains - if he's not performing well enough for the Dodgers to want him on their roster at $6 million per, he won't be very easy to trade either. Now that the news about his partial UCL tear becoming public, you'd also be talking about trying to trade underperforming AND damaged goods.
 
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