Airplane disaster - Mental Illness issues?

yeezus said:
No. That's not it, at all.
I don't think anyone would argue that when someone goes on a shooting spree, mental health should be looked at. But so should gun regulation. It doesn't have to be either/or. It can be both. The pro-gunners only want the focus on mental health, and don't want any tighter restrictions on guns. Even though focusing on both makes a lot of sense. They're both a problem.

You will now see tighter regulation as far as becoming a pilot/flying a plane. This is the same thing as adding more regulation to gun ownership. It's attempting to make something that is imperfect more safe.
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problem is Columbine will happen and a dozen or more can be killed. A pilot with a weapon that carries 100 to 400 people is a problem.
 
yeezus said:
You're right, there is something about guns: they're not as tightly regulated as they could and should be.
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They're more regulated than knives and hammers and swimming pools.

Also - it's not easy to get a gun. It took me about 7 weeks.
 
Maybe planes should be more regulated. We have to go after something besides mental health.
 
gilesfan said:
Maybe planes should be more regulated. We have to go after something besides mental health.
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yup, there will be tighter laws enacted to try and make sure this type of thing doesn't happen again. and they're already far more regulated than guns. so let's bring guns up to plane-level regulation. you game?
 
AerchAngel said:
problem is Columbine will happen and a dozen or more can be killed. A pilot with a weapon that carries 100 to 400 people is a problem.
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of course. and that's why it's difficult to become a pilot. something failed with this one.
i see your point with the number of people at risk, but shooting happen a lot more often than this type of thing. this circumstance is extra bizarre.
 
This schit scares me because my daughter and my ex and their whole family take these types of planes several times a year on their vacations. I would freaking lose it if my daughter, even my ex would have been a victim.
 
sturg33 said:
Everyone keeps missing the point.

If there is a school shooting - there is outrage to change laws.

If there is a knifing, there is not the same outrage.

If there is a plane crash, there is not the same outrage.

If there is a bludgeoning, there is not the same outrage.

There's something about guns with you folks.
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And they only want to ban guns when it's innocent whites that are the victims of gun violence by other mentally ill whites. The hundreds of shootings in inner city Detroit, Chicago, NoLa, etc not one peep about gun control. But when it's a sad situation of innocent whites getting shot by mentally ill whites, they are all up in arms about gun control.

That's the bigger hypocrisy issue to me. They only give a **** about gun violence when it could happen to them. When the victim could be one of thier family members.
 
Krgrecw said:
That's the bigger hypocrisy issue to me. They only give a **** about gun violence when it could happen to them. When the victim could be one of thier family members.
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This is true for basically everyone. I wouldn't recommend it as the firmest of footing for your argument.

Also, talk about slippery slope. You guys have managed to take a very tragic event that deals with a German airline and have turned it into a talking point for your agenda. Shame on all of you.
 
goldfly said:
i can't wait to go to the pawn shop and give them 200 bucks and fly away in my plane 20 minutes later

it's going to be awesome

THEY ARE SO SIMILAR!!!!!!!
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I'm free Saturday. I'll bring the guns, you bring the plane. We'll have a blast.
 
chop2chip said:
This is true for basically everyone. I wouldn't recommend it as the firmest of footing for your argument.

Also, talk about slippery slope. You guys have managed to take a very tragic event that deals with a German airline and have turned it into a talking point for your agenda. Shame on all of you.
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FWIW, don't think that's how this tangent started.

And they only want to ban guns when it's innocent whites that are the victims of gun violence by other mentally ill whites. The hundreds of shootings in inner city Detroit, Chicago, NoLa, etc not one peep about gun control. But when it's a sad situation of innocent whites getting shot by mentally ill whites, they are all up in arms about gun control.

That's the bigger hypocrisy issue to me. They only give a **** about gun violence when it could happen to them. When the victim could be one of thier family members.

That's, er . . . well . . . it's horse****, frankly. Many if not most of the guns that are used in homicides in urban areas where guns are relatively harder to legally obtain are bought in places—usually down south—where they're easier to get and transported to those areas by unscrupulous ****heels out to make a buck. That is and has been a major point of contention for people who support tighter gun regs.
 
Krgrecw said:
And they only want to ban guns when it's innocent whites that are the victims of gun violence by other mentally ill whites. The hundreds of shootings in inner city Detroit, Chicago, NoLa, etc not one peep about gun control. But when it's a sad situation of innocent whites getting shot by mentally ill whites, they are all up in arms about gun control.

That's the bigger hypocrisy issue to me. They only give a **** about gun violence when it could happen to them. When the victim could be one of thier family members.
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Post of this thread.

Nailed it.

What is Obama doing about the black on black crime and they voted for his ass, for what?
 
sturg33 said:
Everyone keeps missing the point.

If there is a school shooting - there is outrage to change laws.

If there is a knifing, there is not the same outrage.

If there is a plane crash, there is not the same outrage.

If there is a bludgeoning, there is not the same outrage.

There's something about guns with you folks.
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How about we talk about why things are made.

Knives are made to cut things. Rope, meat, vegetables, so on so forth.

Planes are used to move people from one destination to another very quickly.

Guns are made to kill. They serve no other purpose than to kill. You cannot do anything but kill with guns. There's a fear with guns because if you see someone walking around with one it's cause they're ready to kill someone. SOmeone walking around with a knife may be doing a number of things.
 
zitothebrave said:
How about we talk about why things are made.

Knives are made to cut things. Rope, meat, vegetables, so on so forth.

Planes are used to move people from one destination to another very quickly.

Guns are made to kill. They serve no other purpose than to kill. You cannot do anything but kill with guns. There's a fear with guns because if you see someone walking around with one it's cause they're ready to kill someone. SOmeone walking around with a knife may be doing a number of things.
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Good point Zeets. Way to think out of the box. The only thing gun is for and not really necessary is hunting.
 
Hunting is still killing. Guns and other projectile weapons are used to kill. Knives kill but serve ultimately a much more common purpose than self defense. I have some 20 odd sharp knives in my house. None of them are intended to kill nor would I think of using any of them in self defense.
 
AerchAngel said:
This schit scares me because my daughter and my ex and their whole family take these types of planes several times a year on their vacations. I would freaking lose it if my daughter, even my ex would have been a victim.
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The odds that you have a suicidal/homicidal pilot is pretty freaking low.

Now, let's talk about automobiles...
 
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