Another tragedy in Africa

Hawk said:
It's grasping at straws when you resort to reaching back into the archives to find a group that a) became nefarious in 2012 and b) practiced 'mysticism' to try to prove a weak point that all terrorism in Africa is somehow attached to religion.

How about all of the attacks which have occurred in the past 2 years?

It sounds to me like you need to educate yourself much more thoroughly on the current situation on the ground in Africa, especially as it relates to the rapid spread of fundamentalist Islam -- especially before calling the attack in Kenya 'tribal warfare', and then randomly blaming Christians, too.

You exposed your ass the moment you decided to choose that path in this discussion.
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I could point to others. I picked a big one from "way back" in 2012. He're a hint, that's not that long ago, they're still around as well. Not as powerful as they used to be of course. They're a fundamentalist christian terror group. You can choose to deny that if you want. But it's part of how they recruit/justify.

And it has a **** ton to do with old tribal battles. It's not the only reason of course. But it's a big one. Much bigger than Islam vs Christianity.
 
zitothebrave said:
I could point to others. I picked a big one from "way back" in 2012.
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"The death toll is the highest in a terror attack on Kenyan soil since the U.S. Embassy was bombed in 1998."

That's how far you have to go back to find one of this magnitude.
 
thethe said:
While its worse now (because of Iran) than it was when Saddam was there I still believe that there was plenty of unchecked territory that Islam held a presence.
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Islam held a presence. Islam holds a presence in the US. Islam took a hold in Iraq when we destabilized their central government and Al Qaeda stormed in to keep it destabilized.

And it's not because of Iran, you're so freaking wrong. Look at what Iran is, here's a hint, Persian and Shia, while the Islam insurgents in Iraq are Arab and Sunni. THen again, you probably think all of Islam is exactly the same. So what's the point.
 
zitothebrave said:
Islam held a presence. Islam holds a presence in the US. Islam took a hold in Iraq when we destabilized their central government and Al Qaeda stormed in to keep it destabilized.

And it's not because of Iran, you're so freaking wrong. Look at what Iran is, here's a hint, Persian and Shia, while the Islam insurgents in Iraq are Arab and Sunni. THen again, you probably think all of Islam is exactly the same. So what's the point.
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If you don't think that Iran played a HUGE role with destabilizing Iraq then you are hopeless.
 
Dalyn said:
"The death toll is the highest in a terror attack on Kenyan soil since the U.S. Embassy was bombed in 1998."

That's how far you have to go back to find one of this magnitude.
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In one country, in one attack. Ok congrats?

LRA insurgency has killed 65,000+ not counting other casualties including child sex trafficking and more.
 
zitothebrave said:
I could point to others. I picked a big one from "way back" in 2012. He're a hint, that's not that long ago, they're still around as well. Not as powerful as they used to be of course. They're a fundamentalist christian terror group. You can choose to deny that if you want. But it's part of how they recruit/justify.

And it has a **** ton to do with old tribal battles. It's not the only reason of course. But it's a big one. Much bigger than Islam vs Christianity.
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I don't even know what you are arguing anymore.
 
same problem throughout the world

religious and right wing people hate education
 
thethe said:
If you don't think that Iran played a HUGE role with destabilizing Iraq then you are hopeless.
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OK so Iran is just chock full of Sunni Arabs. Yup. Yup totally. Again care to tell me what ISIL is made up of? What Al Qaeda is made up of? So on so forth? Iran is hardly close to part of our problem with Islam, instead our "allies" like UAE and the Saudis were much much much more involved in recruiting and paying for them. Which basically means one of 2 things. Either they're not really our allies, or we're fighting against people we're financing.
 
the right wings fear of Iran is some the craziest **** ever

you would think they were a super power the likes of Russia or a modern day Rome the way they are built up in this country
 
goldfly said:
same problem throughout the world

religious and right wing people hate education
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And liberals now apparently hate possibly offending some specific group or person more than anything else. It's all ****ing irritating.
 
goldfly said:
the right wings fear of Iran is some the craziest **** ever

you would think they were a super power the likes of Russia or a modern day Rome the way they are built up in this country
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Uh, wrong thread champ.
 
thethe

we are fighting ISIL along side Iran

we are fighting Iran in Yemen since they back the Houthi rebels

just so you know
 
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