Indiana....

Even if the reason to deny them is racism I'm not sure why that should matter. Nobody is advocating outward hatred but if someone is asking you to do something for them you should be able to deny them for any reason you want. The law to me just makes sense.
 
Even if the reason to deny them is racism I'm not sure why that should matter. Nobody is advocating outward hatred but if someone is asking you to do something for them you should be able to deny them for any reason you want. The law to me just makes sense.

Agreed... but the LGBT crowd will yell, kick, and scream til everyone bows down.
 
so goldy thinks a business HAS to serve any customer NO MATTER WHAT

land of the free

i really don't care about someones personal religion in the business world

you are free to hate who you want in your private life
 
Isn't the point of legalizing LGBT marriage transference of job benefits , hospital visitation rights, family leave issues,adoption rights etc and you know something heterosexuals have access to . I really don't think it is so they can make christians bake them cakes or have "everyone bow down"

The above notion is born from the religeous right putting words into the mouths of the gay
 
Agreed... but the LGBT crowd will yell, kick, and scream til everyone bows down.

most people have to be pulled kicking and screaming when it comes to breaking down walls of treating people as equal
 
Isn't the point of legalizing LGBT marriage transference of job benefits , hospital visitation rights, family leave issues,adoption rights etc and you know something heterosexuals have access to . I really don't think it is so they can make christians bake them cakes or have "everyone bow down"
The above notion is born from the religeous right putting words into the mouths of the gay

I didn't know that getting a cake was a constitutional right
 
Isn't the point of legalizing LGBT marriage transference of job benefits , hospital visitation rights, family leave issues,adoption rights etc and you know something heterosexuals have access to . I really don't think it is so they can make christians bake them cakes or have "everyone bow down"

The above notion is born from the religeous right putting words into the mouths of the gay

I didn't know that getting a cake was a constitutional right
 
most people have to be pulled kicking and screaming when it comes to breaking down walls of treating people as equal

They can get over it. If a Christian doesn't want to be a part of a gay wedding, get the **** over it.

I wouldn't expect a black person to cater a KKK wedding

I wouldn't expect a gay person to cater to whoever the biggest anti-gay group is.

You clearly don't think a business can deny any service... and for that I think you're insane...
 
They can get over it. If a Christian doesn't want to be a part of a gay wedding, get the **** over it.

I wouldn't expect a black person to cater a KKK wedding

I wouldn't expect a gay person to cater to whoever the biggest anti-gay group is.

You clearly don't think a business can deny any service... and for that I think you're insane...

i thought i have been pretty clear that gov't/business/society should be secular

your and whomever you wants private life can be religious

i am cool with our society pushing all of your examples out of this society though. if in your eyes, that is anti-freedom. i really don't care

thankfully, we didn't like freedom enough to push one of those underground and viewed as wrong. hopefully the rest will be done the same despite our hate for "freedom"
 
most people have to be pulled kicking and screaming when it comes to breaking down walls of treating people as equal

Just in a crazy scenario lets say a man sleeps with another mans wife.

Should that same man if he owned a business have to serve the guy that effed his wife?
 
I don't draw it there.

OK. Apparently, given the amount of oxygen this is consuming, some people certainly do.

I'm not being a smartass, and it's not my intent to be condescending. I just genuinely do not get it. The "substantial burden" part. I need someone to put in dummy's terms how one's christian faith is substantially burdened by a commercial transaction.

Why one sin rates, but others don't. Why one sin is so abhorrent. Why legislation has to be crafted apparently to protect the sensibilities of folks who have no religious duty, that I'm aware of, in the commercial arena.
 
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