6/1/15: GDT - Atlanta Braves @ Arizona Diamondbacks

chop2chip said:
I'm not reacting other than making a true observation. Markakis is routinely our most bashed player on the team which is unfair. It's not his fault the team gave him that money. I'm mostly glad that he's been successful doing what he can do with the ability he still has.

I just hope we get to the point where we enjoy the positives he brings to the tables. Even from a saber metric angle he's been productive, even if it's likely not sustainable.

3 hit game now.
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Saying we're "grasping at straws to bash a player" seems like an overreaction. We're not grasping at straws... he has no power and his defense is declining rapidly... We have 3.5 more years of that likely decline. We're not bashing him by pointing out his flaws.

He's been a productive this year (in a punt year) and will likely get worse by the time we really need him and that money to perform.
 
sturg33 said:
Saying we're "grasping at straws to bash a player" seems like an overreaction. We're not grasping at straws... he has no power and his defense is declining rapidly... We have 3.5 more years of that likely decline. We're not bashing him by pointing out his flaws.

He's been a productive this year (in a punt year) and will likely get worse by the time we really need him and that money to perform.
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It may not end up being a punt year aftetall...
 
Uribe deserved that hit after hitting a ball really hard to CF earlier. He's been a really good pickup so far.
 
As thethe has frequently stated, at the start of the year if you'd told me we'd be a game over .500 on June 1st, I'd have taken that in a second.
 
sturg33 said:
Saying we're "grasping at straws to bash a player" seems like an overreaction. We're not grasping at straws... he has no power and his defense is declining rapidly... We have 3.5 more years of that likely decline. We're not bashing him by pointing out his flaws.

He's been a productive this year (in a punt year) and will likely get worse by the time we really need him and that money to perform.
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Perhaps I worded that strongly.

I still feel the criticism is over the top. It's the Goldilocks Syndrome. He may not do a lot of things that you hope he would be able to do, but it often overshadows all of the things that he does do that provides value.

Let's just save the decline talk until it comes. There should be plenty of time to rub it in our faces.
 
thethe said:
Need to figure out catcher and the 7th inning. Then we may snatch up a WC.
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My take is more fix catcher, fix the bullpen and fix manager and we're in business as far as having a real shot. But I don't see all that getting done this year.
 
thethe said:
What does that even mean?
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Well I believe you described many from last year's team as "stench" and also specifically called Hayward a joke.

I would have liked to have actually used 2015 to try to compete for a championship. By fixing the real problems from last year's team (CF, 3B, and 2B)... which we've shown was possible without burning the young core to the ground.

But it's too late to go into it any further. I get dizzy
 
thethe said:
What does that even mean?
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He means it's obvious we're intentionally in rebuild mode, you don't do what we did to our bullpen if you're trying to win. You don't even pick someone with a track record like Stults over Wandy either among other moves and non-moves that could've been made.
 
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