Affordable Care Act

Honestly, jiggery-pokery in a bench-opinion makes all the wrangling worth it—whatever side you find yourself on.
 
goldfly said:
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Our health insurance system is all jacked up... I don't think anyone denies that.

But don't act like these folks in Spain are getting this service for free. It's just in America - it's more of a pay for play model, where there it's everyone is subsidizing everyone

By the way, my Canadian boss had to bring his dad to the states TWICE to do a serious heart bypass surgery because the waiting times in Canada were just too risky to wait.
 
I don't even want to know how much two open heart bypass surgeries ran him, totally uninsured -- holy moley.
 
Hawk said:
I don't even want to know how much two open heart bypass surgeries ran him, totally uninsured -- holy moley.
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Yeah - good point... he needed a quadruple bypass... Canada said about 7 weeks because it wasn't "iminent" but my boss didn't want to risk it. Basically got an appointment in US in about 6 days. Not sure how much it ran him - but he makes some damn good money so i doubt it set him back too much
 
Hawk said:
If I could a) be legally allowed to live in Madrid for more than than three months or b) survive in Madrid for two years on 15K euro ... then sign me up.

There's literally nothing literal about that statement, at all, except for the notion that Spanish healthcare is cheaper than American healthcare.
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Spain isn't going to kick you out at 3 months since you are American so the a part isn't a problem

I'm almost positive I could survive on 15k euro a year though if I had to though
 
sturg33 said:
Our health insurance system is all jacked up... I don't think anyone denies that.

But don't act like these folks in Spain are getting this service for free. It's just in America - it's more of a pay for play model, where there it's everyone is subsidizing everyone

By the way, my Canadian boss had to bring his dad to the states TWICE to do a serious heart bypass surgery because the waiting times in Canada were just too risky to wait.
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I understand how universal healthcare works

Cool story.I'm shocked a rich person got quality healthcare in the USA. My mom who had private insurance and Medicare had to have emergency surgery recently and after it is being told she owes 8k now and the insurance said they are paying the surgeon for something either. Thankfully he is a friend we know and the part he isn't being paid for from insurance he said he is going to write off on his taxes a large chunk. **** "pay to play" healthcare
 
goldfly said:
Spain isn't going to kick you out at 3 months since you are American so the a part isn't a problem

I'm almost positive I could survive on 15k euro a year though if I had to though
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15K euro a year is definitely doable.
 
Hawk said:
I don't even want to know how much two open heart bypass surgeries ran him, totally uninsured -- holy moley.
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If you are on welfare, it's free. Try collecting from a welfare black family on medical costs, you might get 5 dollars a month for the next 20 years.
 
Hawk said:
15K euro a year is definitely doable.
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yes, but you have to do a serious budget.

I will call my daughter today and ask what she pay for rent, car note and insurance and her lifestyle on going out to party and eat. I know she goes on two vacations a year with her mom, Mallorca and Sicily and maybe one more in Spain or France. I know my ex goes to France and Spain a lot, she is in one of those motorcycle clubs (I did not allow her to have one, so sue me I lost three friends on motorcycles) with her cool boyfriend.
 
AerchAngel said:
If you are on welfare, it's free. Try collecting from a welfare black family on medical costs, you might get 5 dollars a month for the next 20 years.
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My dad was an emergency room doctor at an inner city hospital. He'd tell us that parents would bring their kids in all the time and the parents would have no idea how to spell their own kids name. That's sad.
 
Krgrecw said:
My dad was an emergency room doctor at an inner city hospital. He'd tell us that parents would bring their kids in all the time and the parents would have no idea how to spell their own kids name. That's sad.
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Oh the stories I can tell you, Dexter Manley would even be smart in comparision. I know I look down on my people but they brought it on themselves. You can't use slavery and crutches to not go to school, not to keep your dick in your pants and just have a don't care attitude. As a human being you need to own up and be the best you can be. If you want to be a thug, be a thug, but don't have 8 kids and not take responsibility and do not give me this schit about the government will take of it. Hey knucklehead, blacks that actually got a clue is paying for your kids. This is the problem I have.

Jersey girl might not approve me putting out our laundry but it is the damn truth and we need to get our head, like her and I, educated, out of the goddam sand.
 
Oh I agree. That is why I believe in sterilization for men, women, black and white etc. NO one should have 4 + kids now a days who are living in poverty and using government benefits.
 
njc108 said:
Oh I agree. That is why I believe in sterilization for men, women, black and white etc. NO one should have 4 + kids now a days who are living in poverty and using government benefits.
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I was afraid you were going to crucify me. I am serious by the way.

I am tired of it. You, I and Dalyn believes in sterilization until you can prove yourselves, but I hate to say the Dems, not you, don't want it. This is where I get the paternalistic of blacks by the Dems, want our votes, but also control us. Reps are no better as the jobs we can do are being shipped overseas so they aren't helping.
 
"In Kentucky, for example, enrollments during the 2014 fiscal year were more than double the number projected, with almost 311,000 newly eligible residents signing up. That's greater than what was initially predicted through 2021. As a result, the state revised its Medicaid cost estimate from $33 million to $74 million for the 2017 fiscal year. By 2021, those costs could climb to a projected $363 million."

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OF COURSE states can't afford taking people who were paying for health insurance and putting them on medicaid. What kind of idiot thought this was possible? Oh, that's right 219 idiot Democrats in the House of Representatives, 60 Democrats in the Senate and one dumb Democrat in Frankfort...
 
sturg33 said:
"In Kentucky, for example, enrollments during the 2014 fiscal year were more than double the number projected, with almost 311,000 newly eligible residents signing up. That's greater than what was initially predicted through 2021. As a result, the state revised its Medicaid cost estimate from $33 million to $74 million for the 2017 fiscal year. By 2021, those costs could climb to a projected $363 million."

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OF COURSE states can't afford taking people who were paying for health insurance and putting them on medicaid. What kind of idiot thought this was possible? Oh, that's right 219 idiot Democrats in the House of Representatives, 60 Democrats in the Senate and one dumb Democrat in Frankfort...
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Did you read the who;e article or jus tthe headline. The body tells another story than I think you intended. Or at ;east not shown so bright a light on Kentucky

Kentucky saved $9 million in 2014 as enrollees in behavioral and mental health programs were fully covered by Medicaid, according to a report by the State Health Reform Assistance Network, a program of the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation. Some states, including West Virginia and Arkansas, are reporting costs are lower than expected
 
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