Uribe and KJ to NYM

clvclv said:
This is the point that the trade I proposed earlier with the Giants makes sense. Maybin, Pierzynski, and Jim Johnson for Andrew Susac, Mac Williamson, and Ray Black saves you another $4.24 million.

Suddenly that's almost $7 million you can devote to international signings/overage taxes next July.
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I'm not sure it would work that way. Each division within a corporation (and the Braves are corporate owned) usually has a budget - sales, marketing, finance, fleet, etc. If an individual division ends up with a budget surplus they usually find a home for that surplus within the division OR the surplus goes to the bottom line.

I expect that anything saved off of the ML budget will never see the minor league and scouting budget. That's why I think they are saving money to justify cutting CJ loose and eating what is left OR to trade him while eating significant dollars.

I think Maitan is a completely separate issue. I think the Braves have budgeted for this offseason young talent acquisition as part of their long term plan already.

Now, if the Braves were owned by an individual, like Turner or Stienbrener, you could be right because there was one voice ultimately in control.
 
Part of me wants John Gant to fail just so we don't have to put up with writers spitting out "Who is John Gant?" headlines everytime he pitches well (Atlas Shrugged reference for those that don't know).
 
Heyward said:
Not bad for a scrub.

Atlanta Braves ‏@Braves

Rob Whalen (@RobWhalen38) owns a career minor league record of 16-9 with a 2.43 ERA over 42 appearances (38 starts).
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I tend to not pay attention when somebody references W-L with Any pitcher when judging them let alone a minor leaguer
 
emk418 said:
I tend to not pay attention when somebody references W-L with Any pitcher when judging them let alone a minor leaguer
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Doesn't look to me like that was the only stat referenced. ERA isn't the best stat either but after 38 starts that's pretty decent.
 
rniki10 said:
I've been really busy with life these days. I could contribute to the board alot when I was 25. Now I'm 35 and grown up stuff to do. But KJ is my boy, you all know that. Had to comment on his return and now departure.
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Fight it, Niki. Don't let the grown up take over.

And I'm sad to see KJ go, too. He was a nice blast from the past. Played well, too.
 
cajunrevenge said:
Personally I hate this trade. I've never heard of these two we got from the Mets and that means they suck. We should expect more for our mediocre players with extremely short term contracts
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If that's all they bring in a trade, just keep them. We didn't have to trade them at all. Keep them to mentor all the September callups. That alone is worth more than what we got for them.
 
I was expecting a bigger return, but you never can tell. If this is what we got for KJ and Uribe, CJ is worth next to nothing. My guess is CJ gets every AB at 3B from this point forward in hopes that he rebuilds some value so they can dump his sorry butt.
 
emk418 said:
I tend to not pay attention when somebody references W-L with Any pitcher when judging them let alone a minor leaguer
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I was looking at ERA mostly, W/L is stupid when determining pitchers
 
striker42 said:
If that's all they bring in a trade, just keep them. We didn't have to trade them at all. Keep them to mentor all the September callups. That alone is worth more than what we got for them.
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No it's not.

Not if it means our 2016 pick becomes protected.
 
50PoundHead said:
I was expecting a bigger return, but you never can tell. If this is what we got for KJ and Uribe, CJ is worth next to nothing. My guess is CJ gets every AB at 3B from this point forward in hopes that he rebuilds some value so they can dump his sorry butt.
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The FO seems very anxious to get closure on the CJ situation. Psychologically (and for PR reasons), I think they'd like to complete the final step of the tear-down ASAP so that all efforts leading into 2016 are focused on the build-up. In the next 6-plus days, the only viable strategy figures be attaching CJ to Maybin in a deal. I have mixed emotions about this.

Once the calendar flips to August, I think it will become easier to trade CJ. Teams will be trying to pass their bad contracts through waivers and it will be a little easier to see potential matches for a bad contract swap.
 
I'd trade Maybin if the deal is right but given the lack of options out there unless we got Jason, Justin or Ces, i'm not sure i'd deal him.

Otherwise, you're looking at an outfield of Markakis, Mallex, and FA next year (barf)
 
I don't care about money unless we use it. I wish we would do more nba style trades and take on salary for a prospect. What if we could spend 3 million so the Indians can add a cost neutral piece and we get a b prospect?

I thought I read both of these guys have pretty good k/9?

Just remember or pull up our preseason comments on Ian Thomas callaspo and kj. To turn that into at worst3 Ian thomases seems pretty good.

And we know the giants talked. So this isn't a first offer situation. Giants were not willing to offer more.

We are not trading impact guys here.

Get mad if sd gets more fore jup than we got
 
Heyward said:
I'd trade Maybin if the deal is right but given the lack of options out there unless we got Jason, Justin or Ces, i'm not sure i'd deal him.

Otherwise, you're looking at an outfield of Markakis, Mallex, and FA next year (barf)
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I think Maybin may go but probably in the off season.

Maybin trade fits if we try to extend miller and wood and can only get one. Then we may find part of the wood package is a corner of. Then Maybin trade to fill hole at c or 3b unless we attach him to cj
 
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