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sturg33 said:
You want to rob people - I don't. I believe in freedom, you don't. I believe in personal responsibility, you believe in government hand-holding.
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awesome
 
weso1 said:
goldfly, zito, gary, jpx and runnin from the internet are in favor of third party entities selling body parts for profit without the knowledge of either the person who had the body parts or the mother who had those body parts in her womb.

Their defenses are as follows... Republicans don't back my liberal ideas which I loosely parallel to the issue of the OP therefore, they are hypocrites for not backing my lack of morals ethics, I don't care (Which makes you a sociopath), or here's an article from the liberal factchecks.org that it isn't for profit even though that site has a clear agenda to continue the practice and the opinions expressed in the article are absurd.

So many liberals grump about the lack of compromise and this is a perfect reason why there is no compromise and it's coming from the left just as much as the right. Clearly the best reply from the left is that Planned Parenthood needs to have a set fee on what they charge researchers. The problem is that there's no set fee schedule. Rather than try to defend this absurd position some of them have, it would be much better to fix the obvious and significant problem that exists.
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You're an idiot.
 
sturg33 said:
That's just a difference between you and me. You want to rob people - I don't. I believe in freedom, you don't. I believe in personal responsibility, you believe in government hand-holding.
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You're my hero. :FrediPuzzled:
 
weso1 said:
goldfly, zito, gary, jpx and runnin from the internet are in favor of third party entities selling body parts for profit without the knowledge of either the person who had the body parts or the mother who had those body parts in her womb.

Their defenses are as follows... Republicans don't back my liberal ideas which I loosely parallel to the issue of the OP therefore, they are hypocrites for not backing my lack of morals ethics, I don't care (Which makes you a sociopath), or here's an article from the liberal factchecks.org that it isn't for profit even though that site has a clear agenda to continue the practice and the opinions expressed in the article are absurd.

So many liberals grump about the lack of compromise and this is a perfect reason why there is no compromise and it's coming from the left just as much as the right. Clearly the best reply from the left is that Planned Parenthood needs to have a set fee on what they charge researchers. The problem is that there's no set fee schedule. Rather than try to defend this absurd position some of them have, it would be much better to fix the obvious and significant problem that exists.
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That's absurd, but funny.

For the record, runnin from the internet supports a non-profit system of selling body parts and an aggressive education of the complete process to all parties involved, which would hopefully convince Republicans of the health benefits for all and allow their squirrel-sized attention spans to latch onto something more important.
 
Guys... let's not get personal here. Thanks for clearing up your positions, because you have to admit that initially you were defending the idea that selling body parts for profit or to put toward other costs was ok. Why not maybe work towards a compromise rather than insult those we disagree with? So we agree that Planned Parenthood was clearly in the wrong here?

I get the angst against me as I was intentionally trying to hit a nerve, but I think my post was successful in exposing the true position which most of you have, which is that planned parenthood messed up here. So maybe let's fix it rather than call those we disagree with idiots? Seems a bit sophomoric to me.
 
jpx7 said:
Disagreement about the rôle government has to play in the lives of its citizens is not the same as being "brainwashed".
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My response was to 57, I stopped reading the thread beyond his last message.

Edit: But now having gone back, I made an attempt to decipher the meaning behind your comment within the context of the past 7-9 messages and am easily content with my original post, however you took it, even as 'disagreement about the role of government'.

This thread is just an all too typical uninformed, misdirected bitchfest.
 
Hawk said:
This thread is just an all too typical uninformed, misdirected bitchfest.
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Correct, lots of folks bitching about a legal service of donating fetal tissue that they think is abhorrent when in reality, it's legal and without intimate knowledge of the process you couldn't know if they're actually making profit or not. Typical uniformed conservative bitchfest.
 
zitothebrave said:
Correct, lots of folks bitching about a legal service of donating fetal tissue that they think is abhorrent when in reality, it's legal and without intimate knowledge of the process you couldn't know if they're actually making profit or not. Typical uniformed conservative bitchfest.
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Donating ... Haha good God.

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Hawk said:
I love the smell of brainwash in the morning.
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Objective reality includes the following facts:

• Planned Parenthood is not selling fetus parts for profit or otherwise.

• Only three percent of Planned Parenthood’s activities involve abortions.

• Per the Hyde Amendment, no federal funds can be used for abortions. And there’s no evidence that Planned Parenthood has done so.

• Consequently, de-funding Planned Parenthood would put into jeopardy its ability to save lives and, germane to this issue, prevent abortions. The Washington Post editorial board concluded:
 
57Brave said:
• Per the Hyde Amendment, no federal funds can be used for abortions. And there’s no evidence that Planned Parenthood has done so.
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This one is pretty funny to me. So I get money... use it for purpose A (not abortions), then I have the money that would have been for purpose A, and use it for abortions.

I hope you're less naive than you act
 
sturg33 said:
Any money gotten from the federal government indirectly funds abortions.
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This is always going to be the crux of the attacks on Planned Parenthood—even though abortion-services represent a very small percentage of their service portfolio, and even though study after study demonstrates that (along with better and earlier sex-education) easier, cheaper access to contraceptive options (which is a much bigger part of what Planned Parenthood provides communities) is very positively correlated with a reduction in the number of abortions per capita in a given community.

Personally, I could give a f u c k if "money gotten from the federal government indirectly funds abortions"—not because I'm callous to the unfortunate nature of aborting a fetus, but because of the two facts I stated above. (Those two facts, along with my firm belief that it is, ultimately, not my decision whether a woman aborts a fetus gestating within her body; and my further conviction that, if she elects to abort said fetus, I want the procedure to occur in a safe, sterile space by a doctor operating under legal auspices.)
 
jpx7 said:
This is always going to be the crux of the attacks on Planned Parenthood—even though abortion-services represent a very small percentage of their service portfolio, and even though study after study demonstrates that (along with better and earlier sex-education) easier, cheaper access to contraceptive options (which is a much bigger part of what Planned Parenthood provides communities) is very positively correlated with a reduction in the number of abortions per capita in a given community.

Personally, I could give a f u c k if "money gotten from the federal government indirectly funds abortions"—not because I'm callous to the unfortunate nature of aborting a fetus, but because of the two facts I stated above. (Those two facts, along with my firm belief that it is, ultimately, not my decision whether a woman aborts a fetus gestating within her body; and my further conviction that, if she elects to abort said fetus, I want the procedure to occur in a safe, sterile space by a doctor operating under legal auspices.)
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And that's fine - from your point of view. We obviously have a huge philosophical difference on the role of government, so we will never agree on it
 
weird

republicans are up in arms saying planned parenthood is profiting off killing babies

the nra and their friends make a bunch of money by profiting off the death of actual children and no one says a damn thing
 
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