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weso1 said:
There have been shootings at occupy wall street events. So yeah at least some of them were armed. This protest will likely wind up being less deadly than the occupy wall st protest. And less poopy.
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a random person in a crowd with a handgun - (as wrong as I find it) is not equivalent to (another false notion of both sises do it - if you will) organized armed guards at the entrance gates and sharp shooters in fre towers and a promise to kill and be killed
there is armed then, there is armed

C'mon Wes you know that
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Well, organized until it was revealed they forgot to bring snacks
 
57Brave said:
a random person in a crowd with a handgun - (as wrong as I find it) is not equivalent to (another false notion of both sises do it - if you will) organized armed guards at the entrance gates and sharp shooters in fre towers and a promise to kill and be killed

there is armed then, there is armed

C'mon Wes you know that

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Well, organized until it was revealed they forgot to bring snacks
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Don't people have a right to be armed? Until these people point thier weapons at others it's no worse than what the liberals did in the Wisconsin state house.
 
Krgrecw said:
Don't people have a right to be armed? Until these people point thier weapons at others it's no worse than what the liberals did in the Wisconsin state house.
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That was ****ed up, too.
 
Krgrecw said:
Don't people have a right to be armed? Until these people point thier weapons at others it's no worse than what the liberals did in the Wisconsin state house.
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you did invoke the word weapons, correct?

I think you answered your own question
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as far as a right to be armed, yes they do. In a "well regulated" sense.

I see this episode all about anti-regulation as most all RW causes.
Don't Tread On Me and all that illiterate - pie in the sky sophomoric BS
 
OK so if I have this straight these nimrods hate the government so much and are so ticked off at its stupidity and excesses that they decided to "take action and make a point" for freedom. Is this fairly close?
 
Oklahomahawk said:
OK so if I have this straight these nimrods hate the government so much and are so ticked off at its stupidity and excesses that they decided to "take action and make a point" for freedom. Is this fairly close?
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This is the kind of crap why you and I get into it on occasion. I like how you go on about others being brainwashed(especially Christians) and then you type Daily Kos/Huffpo/TPM garbage. Try to educate yourself to what's going on to ranchers across the nation.
 
57Brave said:
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features...y-getting-a-93-percent-discount/?ex_cid=538fb
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To add to that. The fee to graze on BLM land, is 1.69 per animal per month. What are the odds they wouldn't pay a heck of a lot more in property taxes or to buy the property than they're paying to graze on federally maintained lands? Is it the best system? Probably not. But it could be way more expensive. I know folks who rent out their land for cattle grazing, and I bet they didn't only receiving 200 bucks for it.
 
Imagine the Hammonds face palm today - when only 4-5 days ago they stood a chance of receiving a Presidential pardon (?)
The more info that comes out -- this whole stunt is just surreal. Down to them forgetting to pack a lunch
and this :

emptywheel ‏@emptywheel 9m9 minutes ago

emptywheel Retweeted Michael Calderone

Media outlet proves its "objectivity" by calling valet car and construction owner-run protest "ranchers"

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I mock
 
Let me be clear on one thing. While I can sympathize with their position I do not believe they have a right to take over a federal building. As of now they haven't pointed their weapons at anyone. The minute they do they need to be mowed down. However, If both sides keep their cool this can be be solved peacefully.
 
Garmel said:
This is the kind of crap why you and I get into it on occasion. I like how you go on about others being brainwashed(especially Christians) and then you type Daily Kos/Huffpo/TPM garbage. Try to educate yourself to what's going on to ranchers across the nation.
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I do not read the Huffpo or the DailyKos and while I may know what the TPM is I am not familiar with it in abbreviation form. Why don't you educate me so that we don't "get into it" about this. I do not see where I have been overly harsh to anyone here, except those who do stupid stuff like this. Go ahead and tell me how things are for ranchers. My wife has so relatives who ranch up in the sticks of OK. Tell me your side and we'll go from there. Fair enough?
 
then why are you here ?

You want to talk about ranchers rights - that is all well and good. But you yourself just made the distinction between the issues of the occupiers and the plight of western ranchers.

Guess this means I get to bring up how the (R) Governor of Michigan poisoned the drinking water in Flint , Michigan.
There too we can talk about government overreach --
I mean after all, I warned y'all he was a dick 5-6 years ago.
 
I'm late to the party and am not up on the story other than on one point: the Bundies aren't Christians, from what I know.
 
Oklahomahawk said:
I do not read the Huffpo or the DailyKos and while I may know what the TPM is I am not familiar with it in abbreviation form. Why don't you educate me so that we don't "get into it" about this. I do not see where I have been overly harsh to anyone here, except those who do stupid stuff like this. Go ahead and tell me how things are for ranchers. My wife has so relatives who ranch up in the sticks of OK. Tell me your side and we'll go from there. Fair enough?
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Remember this guy

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