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Im not sayin the trade was good, one of Coppy's worst, but people act like we traded an ace/#2.

People annoyed about the trade aren't annoyed because we want Wood on our team, we're annoyed because we could have gotten something good for Wood and Peraza this past offseason. Both would have/did have a good bit of value.
 
There is more than 1 person around here that thinks JT is that guy. They cite his 2nd half era or something.

You really are guilty of gross overstatement. Some of us--myself included--believe Teheran is better than Wood. We have our reasons. I don't think anyone sees Teheran as the next Juan Marichal.
 
You really are guilty of gross overstatement. Some of us--myself included--believe Teheran is better than Wood. We have our reasons. I don't think anyone sees Teheran as the next Juan Marichal.

JT is not an ace.. he is better than he has shown these last two years, but I also partly blame that on the team he is on... a pitcher who knows going out that if he gives up 1 or 2 runs could cost him the game, is under much greater pressure than someone who has an offense and defense behind him to pick him up if he makes a mistake. Maybe he should be stronger in his mind set.. but I still would bet on another team, JT would be better.. for what ever reason, JT can get rattled easier than other pitchers. My hope for JT is that he can get his ERA down in the 3's by July... then trade him.. I know that is throwing out 2017.. but I have already done that. Hopefully we will continue to see growth from the minors that make replacing JT a much easier task..
 
You really are guilty of gross overstatement. Some of us--myself included--believe Teheran is better than Wood. We have our reasons. I don't think anyone sees Teheran as the next Juan Marichal.

Explain to me how Wood's WAR is higher than Julio's, this year. It makes no sense. There must be ONE thing Wood is good at that always boosts his WAR. Teheran has a much better K rate, much better BB rate, lower ERA, lower xFIP (but slightly higher FIP...). Wood's low HR rate is unsustainable so you could argue he's been a tad lucky. I guess his GB% is what WAR loves, but that hasn't stopped him from stinking up the joint.
 
Explain to me how Wood's WAR is higher than Julio's, this year. It makes no sense. There must be ONE thing Wood is good at that always boosts his WAR. Teheran has a much better K rate, much better BB rate, lower ERA, lower xFIP (but slightly higher FIP...). Wood's low HR rate is unsustainable so you could argue he's been a tad lucky. I guess his GB% is what WAR loves, but that hasn't stopped him from stinking up the joint.

Hey, I'm on your side. Teheran's weakness is that when his stuff gets lazy, it leaves the park. But I think he's a better pitcher than Wood. I've never claimed he was an ace. I can't speak for anyone else. I just think he's been our best pitcher since joining the rotation full-time.
 
Hey, I'm on your side. Teheran's weakness is that when his stuff gets lazy, it leaves the park. But I think he's a better pitcher than Wood. I've never claimed he was an ace. I can't speak for anyone else. I just think he's been our best pitcher since joining the rotation full-time.

Yeah, I know and agree. It just doesn't make sense, and Wood has been nothing but underwhelming since the midway point last year (not to mention he's basically a 5-inning pitcher, as he either comes out of the game or gets lit up in the 6th).

it's just confusing why WAR values him so much (2.6 last year, really?). he's far from a lost cause, but he hasn't been good.
 
Tough news for LAA. I have been down on the Andrelton trade from the Braves perspective, but I suspect the Angels may not be loving there side as much either now. Simmons is off to a brutal start offensively, and the Angels pitching depth for this season and next ain't good.

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Tough news for LAA. I have been down on the Andrelton trade from the Braves perspective, but I suspect the Angels may not be loving there side as much either now. Simmons is off to a brutal start offensively, and the Angels pitching depth for this season and next ain't good.

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And they literally have nothing left to trade to replenish the depth.. maybe we can ship them Newcomb and JT for Trout.. :p
 
From MLBTR...

Nick Swisher is off to a solid start with the Yankees’ Triple-A affiliate, batting .299/.324/.463 with three homers in 71 plate appearances, but the 34-year-old is having some difficulty running, one evaluator told the New York Post’s George A. King III. The person to whom King spoke described Swisher’s running as “hard to look at,” which is perhaps unsurprising for a player of his age coming off multiple knee surgeries.
 
And they literally have nothing left to trade to replenish the depth.. maybe we can ship them Newcomb and JT for Trout.. :p

Why are you so stingy with your trade offer? For Trout in addition to Newcomb and JT I would through in Jenkins, Folty, Banelous, and either Ender or Mallex. Heck I might be willing to give them all 8 of our current position players for Trout.
 
From MLBTR...

Nick Swisher is off to a solid start with the Yankees’ Triple-A affiliate, batting .299/.324/.463 with three homers in 71 plate appearances, but the 34-year-old is having some difficulty running, one evaluator told the New York Post’s George A. King III. The person to whom King spoke described Swisher’s running as “hard to look at,” which is perhaps unsurprising for a player of his age coming off multiple knee surgeries.

I mentioned this after watching him a few times in ST. He's gimpy as hell. Looks like Bobby limping out to the mound pre-knee-replacement.
 
The Angels honestly should trade Trout. That would become a very interesting thing, to see if any team was willing to give up what it would take. You could go to any team in baseball and essentially ask for the entire farm.
 
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