Julio3000
<B>A Chip Off the Old Rock</B>
Yeah, talk about the reverse Midas touch.
Hector Olivera Arrested
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Yeah, talk about the reverse Midas touch.
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
Olivera’s trade value is so low that one executive whose club was approached by the Braves told Passan that he “can’t believe they even asked.”
It must be a lot of fun to make those phone calls to the other teams. I wonder who gets to make them. And who issued the instruction to call the other teams. And how much of his salary are we offering to pay.
It must be a lot of fun to make those phone calls to the other teams. I wonder who gets to make them. And who issued the instruction to call the other teams. And how much of his salary are we offering to pay.
JxnMissFan
Gwinnett Bound
I'm guessing some intern got to make those calls. Sounds like a great way to haze the new new guy.
Coppy to new guy "Hey great to have you on board, first thing I need you to do is make a few phone calls about a possible trade."
Tapate50
Well-known member
You joke... but that would be awesome. I'd do that in a minute. For free.
50PoundHead
Hessmania Forever
Just watch. We'll release him. He'll find "the Lawd." He'll go somewhere else and hit .300 with 20 HRs.
50PoundHead
Hessmania Forever
I'm in Minnesota.
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
I know. It shows.
bravesfanMatt
Steve Harvey'd
probably, because he will get with a hitting coach that doesn't believe that hitting singles is the only way to get a hit.
Tapate50
Well-known member
Jazz is big in NOLA, not Atlanta.
Tapate50
Well-known member
Its getting ridiculous. I can't find any reason to put faith in anyone we acquire, sign, etc...
We develop some guys sure, then their elbow falls off or their pecker hurts. Anyone we bring in though? Poisoned. Pure garbage in a Braves Uni.
FIFY.
striker42
Well-known member
I understand making the calls. I'm sure Coppy was pretty sure it was hopeless before making them but you have to do your due diligence. The Braves had a completely irrational love for this guy, maybe some other team is still over the moon. Unlikely but the Dodgers did manage to pawn him off on us so it's not impossible we could do the same.
I think this is a precursor to us releasing him. We had to check to see if anyone had even the slightest interest in him before eating his contract.
The thing that gets to me is just the magnitude of failure here. We weren't even close to right about Olivera in any way. We thought he'd be a good thirdbaseman, he can't even play the position. We thought he'd bring power to the lineup, he's a punch and judy hitter. We thought he'd be a line drive machine, he's a ground ball and pop up machine. We thought he'd be a mature professional since he wasn't a kid, he promptly gets arrested.
The front office was absolutely convinced they were right on this guy. The trumpeted the amount of work they had done scouting Olivera. It's just shocking how wrong they were.
I think this is a precursor to us releasing him. We had to check to see if anyone had even the slightest interest in him before eating his contract.
The thing that gets to me is just the magnitude of failure here. We weren't even close to right about Olivera in any way. We thought he'd be a good thirdbaseman, he can't even play the position. We thought he'd bring power to the lineup, he's a punch and judy hitter. We thought he'd be a line drive machine, he's a ground ball and pop up machine. We thought he'd be a mature professional since he wasn't a kid, he promptly gets arrested.
The front office was absolutely convinced they were right on this guy. The trumpeted the amount of work they had done scouting Olivera. It's just shocking how wrong they were.
You just never know when a bad contract swap like the CJ-Bourn/Swisher deal can be reached if you don't ask. For example, say the Rockies want out from under as much of Jose Reyes' $44 million as they can get. If you're in the camp that believes the Braves aren't going to spend on the free-agent market this winter, wouldn't you prefer to pay the extra $12 million total owed to Reyes while we have flexibility and get the last three years of commitment to Olivera off the books? What if you could even expand it to include a Gant or Jenkins to get a legitimate C prospect like Dom Nunez or Tom Murphy?
chop2chip
Well-known member
I'm not surprised this trade blew up in our faces as it was super risky from the onset. I'm just stunned about how quickly it blew up in our faces.
At least Uggla and Upton took a year or two before that seemed hopeless.
With all of that said, I hold no feelings for those who hit women. If the Braves release Olivera today, I wouldn't think anything of it. I don't want to be put in a position as a fan where I'm rooting for an underdog story when that underdog is a monster.
At least Uggla and Upton took a year or two before that seemed hopeless.
With all of that said, I hold no feelings for those who hit women. If the Braves release Olivera today, I wouldn't think anything of it. I don't want to be put in a position as a fan where I'm rooting for an underdog story when that underdog is a monster.
chop2chip
Well-known member
Going by that logic he should have been promoted to JS's position with the Shelby Miller trade.
The Olivera trade was a set back, but I think we tend to overestimate the long term ramifications of these things.
sturg33
I
Obviously the Shelby deal was fantastic... but those are the things that make sense in the context of the rebuild.
The Olivera deal made no sense
goldfly
<B>if my thought dreams could be seen</B>
i don't agree with the fired part
but i 100% agree with the 2nd part
it made no sense then and makes no sense now