Hudson2
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Where at? I thought they deemed him ineligible for the season?
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Where at? I thought they deemed him ineligible for the season?
bravesfanMatt
Steve Harvey'd
Think it was only for the first month of the season.
yeezus
It's OVER 5,000!
He's actually pitching at Campbell's Field in Camden, NJ for Barnegat vs. Gloucester Catholic. Campbell's Field was built for an independent team (the Riversharks) that recently disbanded. Sick stadium, tho.
Coach_Chris
Arizona Fall Leaguer
Jason Groome to face No. 1 team in Press baseball Elite 11
http://www.pressofatlanticcity.com/...cle_cd0313da-1ad5-11e6-acb2-e3c3a76b45ef.html
http://www.pressofatlanticcity.com/...cle_cd0313da-1ad5-11e6-acb2-e3c3a76b45ef.html
striker42
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I was listening to that podcast Coppy did with Jonah Keri that was posted on the board. Here's the link again:
http://nerdist.com/the-jonah-keri-podcast-22-john-coppolella/
At around 44:00 there's an interesting comment. Coppy was talking about how tanking doesn't really work in baseball considering the top picks are so far away. He said "Last year our first four picks were all high school kids. We'll probably take a high school kid this year too."
It's possible he meant take a high school kid in the first four picks but the context of talking about taking to get a top pick made it sound more like he was talking about who we'd be taking with the first pick. If they think Groome is going to be there at 3 that would be a pretty interesting comment.
http://nerdist.com/the-jonah-keri-podcast-22-john-coppolella/
At around 44:00 there's an interesting comment. Coppy was talking about how tanking doesn't really work in baseball considering the top picks are so far away. He said "Last year our first four picks were all high school kids. We'll probably take a high school kid this year too."
It's possible he meant take a high school kid in the first four picks but the context of talking about taking to get a top pick made it sound more like he was talking about who we'd be taking with the first pick. If they think Groome is going to be there at 3 that would be a pretty interesting comment.
Like I said on the previous page, I think Riley Pint has as much upside as any player in this draft, so it wouldn't shock me if the Braves go with him either. I feel pretty okay with taking any of the high upside HS players, especially if any of them will sign under slot. I don't think Groome in particular would do so, but getting that kind of talent in the system would offset the slotting issue to me. We could always play with our pool money by taking a signable guy with our second or third pick.
MadduxFanII
Swallowed by Mark Bowman
Probably best not to read too much into that comment. It sounds like he was trying to make a point, and we all know Coppolella isn't the most dynamic public communicator.
The way people hang on every word spoken by these guys and try to decipher some meaning... I think there is a lot of smoke and mirrors here.
Would Coppy want people to think they are thinking HS? Would that change the way others plan? Maybe its only folks like us that do it, but I suspect not.
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
Also a little sandbagging is probably called for in this situation.
KB21
Where's My Cup of Coffee?
I'm going to have to listen to that radio piece when I get off today. The comment definitely makes me think the Braves will lean more towards drafting Groome, Pint, or possible Moniak with their #3 pick and then see if they can manufacture Will Benson dropping to 40.
striker42
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I'm with you. If the topic he'd been discussing was the overall draft approach then I'd probably write it off as possible misdirection, smoke and mirrors, or just him speaking in generalities. The thing is that he was talking about accusations of teams tanking and how that doesn't make sense in baseball. How it's not like the NBA. The comment about likely taking a HS guy this year seemed organic.
Probably saying the high school thing to try and throw off the teams ahead of us in the draft so Lewis can fall into our slot.
Of course, the teams ahead of us can just take the player they want with out regard to what we might do....
Of course, the teams ahead of us can just take the player they want with out regard to what we might do....
Unless they have reason to wonder why the Braves, whom many people outside the org feel have done a good job stockpiling talent, would only be considering high school talent instead of collegiate.
nsacpi
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Of course, the teams ahead of us can just take the player they want with out regard to what we might do....
It could be that they respect the Braves scouting reputation to the point where they would allow our evaluation of the talent to affect their choice. Not saying it would be the dominant factor in their choice. But if it were a close call and they were aware that the Braves liked a particular player better it might tip the scales.
I can always rely on you, to put my words more eloquently than I can ever imagine.
striker42
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The comment doesn't say the Braves prefer the high school talent in the draft. He said we're probably going to take a high schooler. Maybe we have Lewis number 1 on the board but feel he's going to get taken by the Phils. Maybe we love Puk but think the Reds are going to grab him.
I don't see either the Phillies or the Reds altering their draft strategy because the Braves GM said they'd probably be taking a high schooler. They wouldn't even know which high schooler we'd like. There are 4 or 5 that could legitimately be talked about at 3.
Nobody is saying they will alter their strategy, but it would definitely have some of their guys re-think internally about who we might be going after, and if they should re-evaluate their decisions just to be safe.
Again, this is on the assumption, that those two orgs respect the Braves' scouting department enough to even consider trying to look at who we're considering.
It's been mentioned on here that this draft class does not have a generational talent. or that it may not be as strong as previous drafts. So I'd think that the game of musical chairs being played at that level, Coppy's little smokescreens do have some merit.
I'm thinking if the Braves don't land Lewis, we go high schooler and then splurge on international kids (or also commonly known around these parts as Zitoing).
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