ESPN article on Braves to do

If Bud Norris keeps it up out of the pen you'll have teams interested in him. Batters have a .566 OPS against him as a reliever. Small sample size but he's not looked bad out of the pen.

I thought the quote from an AL scout on Olivera was interesting.

"I wasn't on board even before the incident,'' said one scout. "I saw him when he first came over. I didn't see any power, and it looked like he was on cruise control. I know he was 30 and he played a lot of years in Cuba. But you still have to show up hungry. If you don't and you don't have the tools, then what are you? You're a bust.''

Pretty much nails it.
 
kingphatcow said:
"the organization has reason to believe that rock bottom is in the past

#GhostWriter
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I know just the ghost that might be:

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Preacher said:
I thought both Chacin and Norris were fine gambles.

Honestly people love to crap on Aybar, but I don't think anybody could have predicted he'd be this bad.
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Agreed.
And Latos was a popular name for us, but he's not pitching great and prob won't be worth much more than Chacin.
 
Preacher said:
I thought both Chacin and Norris were fine gambles.

Honestly people love to crap on Aybar, but I don't think anybody could have predicted he'd be this bad.
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Agreed on all of the above. I also think Beckham and KJ were fine gambles that really haven't gone too poorly for us thus far. You aren't always going to be able to pick up reclamation projects and flip them all, especially when a handful of other teams are doing the same thing and money is flowing in to allow contenders to build super benches.
 
yeezus said:
Agreed.
And Latos was a popular name for us, but he's not pitching great and prob won't be worth much more than Chacin.
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I was happy with the pitching pick ups. offensively speaking I hated the Boni signing.. was meh when Frenchy and Stubbs signed. I was happy with the Flower's signing, but they refuse to install him as the everyday catcher, even with AJ being awful all around. I just think we should have kept Swisher and Bourn and platooned them.. but that would have pushed our prize position HO back to 3rd... But the Braves just ****dumped 30 million dollars (less what Tribe sent).. and got nothing for it... I think the FO got cocky that HO was going to be good this year and play a serviceable LF.. they got majorly burned on that one.
 
bravesfanMatt said:
I was happy with the pitching pick ups. offensively speaking I hated the Boni signing.. was meh when Frenchy and Stubbs signed. I was happy with the Flower's signing, but they refuse to install him as the everyday catcher, even with AJ being awful all around. I just think we should have kept Swisher and Bourn and platooned them.. but that would have pushed our prize position HO back to 3rd... But the Braves just ****dumped 30 million dollars (less what Tribe sent).. and got nothing for it... I think the FO got cocky that HO was going to be good this year and play a serviceable LF.. they got majorly burned on that one.
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I think Bourn and Swish had little to do with HO. Those two really just can't play anymore and weren't going to have any value. You can't play Swish anywhere in the field without him being a major trainwreck.

I also did no care for Francoeur, Stubbs, or Boni. Mallex needs to play every day.
 
yeezus said:
I think Bourn and Swish had little to do with HO. Those two really just can't play anymore and weren't going to have any value. You can't play Swish anywhere in the field without him being a major trainwreck.

I also did no care for Francoeur, Stubbs, or Boni. Mallex needs to play every day.
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our team this year is a train wreck. I would have tried to play them to about 250 PA in the first half. then offered them to a team with the Braves picking up the rest of this year. If nothing else, cut Bourn.. who is toast.. and pray Swisher has something left. I understand, I would probably still have to just cut him at the deadline.. but bringing in this other garbage for a few million here and there was just dumb.. they are all train wrecks..
 
bravesfanMatt said:
our team this year is a train wreck. I would have tried to play them to about 250 PA in the first half. then offered them to a team with the Braves picking up the rest of this year. If nothing else, cut Bourn.. who is toast.. and pray Swisher has something left. I understand, I would probably still have to just cut him at the deadline.. but bringing in this other garbage for a few million here and there was just dumb.. they are all train wrecks..
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I understand, but Swisher can't even stand in the field and pretend to be more than a scarecrow. At least the other guys can move.
 
yeezus said:
Agreed.
And Latos was a popular name for us, but he's not pitching great and prob won't be worth much more than Chacin.
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FWIW, I think Latos was mainly a popular name for some of us here on the board - I don't really recall us being tied to him much in the media (not that it makes any difference).

Norris might be able to fetch a little something similar to the Chacin return. If Grilli were throwing more strikes, he could get a little more. The funny thing about Grilli is that he might very well be more valuable to us as a depth piece/"fill-in" option in the late innings for the rest of his deal since he's so cheap. It's really not going to be long before he's likely to lose regular late-inning opportunities with Simmons getting closer by the day and Withrow lighting it up at Gwinnett as well (9 Ks, 4BBs, 0 ER in 7 IP since he was sent down). Jim Johnson should be DFA'd as soon as he's activated - I'm betting Snitker won't use him enough (and I wouldn't blame him) to build any value - even if it's possible.

KC's apparently still somewhat interested in Swisher, with money still an issue. If I were Coppy, I wouldn't think twice about calling Dayton and offering to pay $15 million of what's left on his deal to get Chase Vallot and several international bonus slots.
 
I don't think we're going to be trading for international slots. We're going to go so far above our allotment that it wouldn't matter much. I'd rather see us do the reverse and deal away our international slots since we're going over it no matter what. It's another sneaky way to get assets. I wonder if that's something we do over the next two weeks as we try to trade for more draft picks.
 
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