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I dont have a house, I guess too much of an inside joke, but everything in these emails leaked show the DNC is not above false flag incidents.
 
As a former political hack, believe me when I tell you there is nothing in these e-mails to date that hasn't been common practice by campaigns since the beginning of campaigns. Granted, the trenches I've been in don't compare to a Presidential race, but politics is basically mud-wrestling. I apologize to those who I have now made into cynics. The faux outrage over the Wikileaks stuff is just precious.
 
50PoundHead said:
As a former political hack, believe me when I tell you there is nothing in these e-mails to date that hasn't been common practice by campaigns since the beginning of campaigns. Granted, the trenches I've been in don't compare to a Presidential race, but politics is basically mud-wrestling. I apologize to those who I have now made into cynics. The faux outrage over the Wikileaks stuff is just precious.
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If this is the case then why are libertarians always mocked for being conspiracy nuts? Don't these revelations prove us right to be skeptical??
 
When you have 2 corrupt parties you fix that by voting for someone else. I dont care if its not the Libertarian party. Vote for the Greens, the communists, vote for Joe Exotic, dont vote for the Nazi party, but just about anyone. I'll get on just about any bandwagon that doesnt end with a Republican or Democrat in the White House.
 
sturg33 said:
If this is the case then why are libertarians always mocked for being conspiracy nuts? Don't these revelations prove us right to be skeptical??
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Because there isn't a conspiracy. A conspiracy would be if there were a totally closed system of media/business/politics which isn't there. I don't doubt the Brazile leaked stuff. Anyone here actually think that's the first time someone with access to supposedly classified information passed it on to a candidate. This is all school-yard crap in the big scheme of things. Too many people have watched "The West Wing" or "Mr. Smith Goes to Washington." Things are more transparent now, but this stuff has been going on as long as I've been in politics. I'm not suggesting anyone celebrate this, but if you go back throughout American history, you'd realize that election campaigns have always featured the worst in human traits.
 
50PoundHead said:
Because there isn't a conspiracy. A conspiracy would be if there were a totally closed system of media/business/politics which isn't there. I don't doubt the Brazile leaked stuff. Anyone here actually think that's the first time someone with access to supposedly classified information passed it on to a candidate. This is all school-yard crap in the big scheme of things. Too many people have watched "The West Wing" or "Mr. Smith Goes to Washington." Things are more transparent now, but this stuff has been going on as long as I've been in politics. I'm not suggesting anyone celebrate this, but if you go back throughout American history, you'd realize that election campaigns have always featured the worst in human traits.
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Which is why I don't trust the system.
 
people thinking i hate guns cause i like to make fun of 2nd amendmenters or that i am advocating to go kill them. good stuff as always
 
Trump has a real chance to win this thing now. I would say it went from less than one percent to maybe about 25% chance. It would probably be higher if it weren't for early voting.

This is how a guy like Trump wins. Just some crazy happenstance.
 
weso1 said:
Trump has a real chance to win this thing now. I would say it went from less than one percent to maybe about 25% chance. It would probably be higher if it weren't for early voting.

This is how a guy like Trump wins. Just some crazy happenstance.
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If you get rid of early voting make election day a national holiday so people have off and extend voting to 2 days.
 
50PoundHead said:
Because there isn't a conspiracy. A conspiracy would be if there were a totally closed system of media/business/politics which isn't there. I don't doubt the Brazile leaked stuff. Anyone here actually think that's the first time someone with access to supposedly classified information passed it on to a candidate. This is all school-yard crap in the big scheme of things. Too many people have watched "The West Wing" or "Mr. Smith Goes to Washington." Things are more transparent now, but this stuff has been going on as long as I've been in politics. I'm not suggesting anyone celebrate this, but if you go back throughout American history, you'd realize that election campaigns have always featured the worst in human traits.
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Actually it is a conspiracy and we're seeing it play out first hand. Brazile conspired with the HRC campaign to give her a foot up on Trump during the debates. That's a conspiracy. There are many many conspiracies that have come to light between the media and her campaign. These are the conspiracies we have proof of. For every one conspiracy we have proof of, how many do you think are going on that we don't know about? Logic tells you that there is way more going on here than we can probably even imagine.

I really don't understand your logic in popping into these threads telling everyone that these illegal moves are just standard operating procedure as if we should just all accept it as regularly scheduled programming and just move on and vote for the chosen one.
 
ESP47 said:
Actually it is a conspiracy and we're seeing it play out first hand. Brazile conspired with the HRC campaign to give her a foot up on Trump during the debates. That's a conspiracy. There are many many conspiracies that have come to light between the media and her campaign. These are the conspiracies we have proof of. For every one conspiracy we have proof of, how many do you think are going on that we don't know about? Logic tells you that there is way more going on here than we can probably even imagine.

I really don't understand your logic in popping into these threads telling everyone that these illegal moves are just standard operating procedure as if we should just all accept it as regularly scheduled programming and just move on and vote for the chosen one.
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Don't forget that Brazile also gave Clinton a question or two before her townhalls with Bernie. That's a conspiracy there too
 
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