Not an awful tone and it's not meant to be as an insult. It just seems like you have difficulty understanding what people are saying/implying at times.
Inauguration Day 2017
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Not an awful tone and it's not meant to be as an insult. It just seems like you have difficulty understanding what people are saying/implying at times.
What steps have they taken?
Since I think that presenting some form of governemnt issued ID to be completely justified when voting for a federal or state election I still do not see how this impacts civil rights. EVERYONE can get a government issued ID.
cajunrevenge
Well-known member
You know what would help poor black people to vote? Stop raiding and pillaging their communities. The war on drugs disenfranchises tens of millions of people but we care more about the handful of black people who apparently live their lives withere no ID or drivers license. Good luck getting a job without id.
goldfly
<B>if my thought dreams could be seen</B>
oh irony
Out of curiosity how far are you willing to go to end the war on drugs? Are we talking about more than marijuana? Are you talking about users and sellers?
Sorry if I hit a nerve.
I never once said that everyone on the left are violent. But, I can't see how anyone can deny that the majority of political violent protest originates from the left and gets especially violent when suppressing more conservative values.
sturg33
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None that I've heard of... although haven't been paying much attention. Glad to see it. It's a nice change from threatening to burn businesses to the ground because they don't support gay marriage
Julio3000
<B>A Chip Off the Old Rock</B>
Er, (Republican-appointed, it must be noted) federal judges have struck down voter id laws in NC and Wisconsin, ruling that they were expressly intended to be discriminatory. That's an unequivocal statement that civil rights have been violated. So, the fact that thethe doesn't see how it impacts civil rights is kinda irrelevant, isn't it? You asked for an example and I gave you one.
goldfly
<B>if my thought dreams could be seen</B>
Julio3000
<B>A Chip Off the Old Rock</B>
That's just, like, your opinion, man.
Its not an interpretation (opinion) of these judges as well or are you assuming that every federal judge in the country would feel the same way this court did?
Julio3000
<B>A Chip Off the Old Rock</B>
Do yourself a favor and read the 4th circuit opinion of the NC case. Really.
Look, you asked for a negative impact on civil rights, I gave you one, and you apparently decided that it didn't count because you don't agree with it.
I'm trying to have a philosophical discussion here. What is a civil right? Who determines what a civil right is? Can their be disagreement on what civil rights are?
weso1
<B>Clique Leader</B>
I wouldn't characterize human walls as necessarily violent either but certainly it is a form of free speech suppression which I assume you are not fond of. And I think you'd probably admit that occurs more against right leaning speakers as well. Imo, there are several reasons for this discrepency.
1) There are more young people who identify as left leaning and young people are more likely to do dumb violent or fascist acts.
2) Leftists tend to be driven more by emotion when compared to those who lean right.
3) A push by democrat politicians and media to unfairly and maliciously portray people on the right as racist, bigoted and homophobic thus giving a rationalization for young emotional people to commit acts of violence and fascism.
I think as long as people on the left continue to push my third point the escalated violence and fascism from the left will continue.
Julio3000
<B>A Chip Off the Old Rock</B>
No, you're moving the goalposts. Those court cases have unequivocally ruled that civil rights are being violated and your response is "what is a civil right"?
You're welcome to your opinion. I'm telling you that the opinions I've referenced have the force of law behind them, so you can't easily wave them away so easily.
So, if the courts rule that equal protection under the law is violated by laws drafted with the intent of suppressing the franchise among certain groups, you would disagree that peoples' civil rights are being violated?
