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I just want to chime in and say I think he could be our 2017 starting right fielder...

...and should have been our 2015 right fielder.

Who wants to top that.
 
He and Fried are likely our two favorites for "fast riser" status.

I think Fried has turned a lot of heads this spring.
 
I just want to chime in and say I think he could be our 2017 starting right fielder...

...and should have been our 2015 right fielder.

Who wants to top that.

He would have been a better hitter than Heyward!

Hows that?
 
He and Fried are likely our two favorites for "fast riser" status.

I think Fried has turned a lot of heads this spring.

I suppose I understand the reluctance based on injury history but the reports on his stuff are tantalizing. Fried is going to push for a major league job earlier than people think. In fact, I think both Newcomb/Fried are going to make the Braves seriously think about trading Colon/Dickey by June.
 
He IS a better hitter than Heyward!

Hows that?

Heyooo

He of the 5\38 and .214 obp this spring. Its been brutal.

I know its been hashed to DEATH, but this franchise could not in any way float a player like that. He isn't likely going to opt out of that Cubbies deal I wouldn't think.
 
Heyooo

He of the 5\38 and .214 obp this spring. Its been brutal.

I know its been hashed to DEATH, but this franchise could not in any way float a player like that. He isn't likely going to opt out of that Cubbies deal I wouldn't think.

The pro heywad crowd has certainly become silent. That initial trade thread is something else to go back to now
 
What's there to say? His 2016 was horrible. Do you expect him to be that bad going forward?

I've said for a long time now he is overrated as a total value player and that paying for his defense was silly.

I'd still love to have him back at less than half his price tag.
 
I've said for a long time now he is overrated as a total value player and that paying for his defense was silly.

I'd still love to have him back at less than half his price tag.

You can say that but it doesn't make it true. That fact that you and people like Bill Shanks value Heyward at less than 20 million a year for what he did prior to Chicago shows you don't know how to properly value players.
 
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You can say that but it doesn't make it true. That fact that you and people like Bill Shanks value Heyward at less than 20 million a year for what he did prior to Chicago shows you don't know how to properly value players.

The fact that you want to pay players for what they've done and not what you project in the future shows you don't know how to value players.
 
The fact that you want to pay players for what they've done and not what you project in the future shows you don't know how to value players.

So did you project Heyward to immediately go from a 110-120 WRC+ hitter to around 80 at age 26? You argument applies to those who sign FA's after their 30's like you want the Braves to do with Lucroy next offseason.
 
The fact that you want to pay players for what they've done and not what you project in the future shows you don't know how to value players.

Any credible projection would have projected Heyward's offense to improve in his late 20s/early 30s as his defense began to tail off, basically cancelling each other out. No projection system will take a player who has been a 5-6 WAR player through age 25 and project him to be worse than that from 26-30.
 
Where were you guys when many of us on this board said heyward wasn't a good hitter? Are you going to pretend like that wasnt discussed
 
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