Luis Robert Leaves Cuba

zbhargrove said:
So sounds like he's about to be declared eligible. Astros, Reds, Cards all having private workouts with him. Pads, White Sox and Athletics are also expected to have workouts. Doesn't even sound like we have any interest him. This is a mistake. We should go hard after this guy. We have ZERO elite outfield talent anywhere close.
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Yeah, I don't see how we'd not at least be doing our due diligence on him. The market seems to have adjusted on Cuba over the past year, so I wouldn't even think the bidding will get that serious. It's strange for a team that has spent the last 2 years doing everything possible to add talent to the pipeline to just sit on their thumbs on this.
 
zbhargrove said:
So sounds like he's about to be declared eligible. Astros, Reds, Cards all having private workouts with him. Pads, White Sox and Athletics are also expected to have workouts. Doesn't even sound like we have any interest him. This is a mistake. We should go hard after this guy. We have ZERO elite outfield talent anywhere close.
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The Braves may not have the money to sign Robert, but at least they have Kemp, Colon, Dickey and Garcia sucking up $40M+ this season to guide the team to a 4th place finish!

In The Genius we trust!
 
there is going to be what 20ish teams that will not get this kid because they decided he wasn't worth X amount of dollars, but it is much more fun to make board assumptions to make yourself look like an ass and idiot.. So what is the saying.. Derp along..
 
It's not just about not having the money this year. The Braves aren't a team with a payroll that can dump a HUGE amount of money into a guy longterm only to have him bust. We got burned with Olivera and will be paying for that mistake for a very long time. It's just a much bigger risk for us than for a team like the Dodgers.

Amassing a large amount of minor league talent, graduating it, extending players who are successful, and trading from the minor league depth to fill positions of weakness is the path we have to take. It's not sexy, it's not quick, but considering we're going to operate with payroll restrictions now and in the future, it's what we have to do.
 
percival said:
Good grief! Doesn't MENSA have a sh!tty softball team you could go root for...
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I'm sorry criticizing the FO offends you so much. Kudos to you for climbing out from under Coppy's desk long enough to make that post though. Now wipe off your chin and get back under there.
 
striker42 said:
It's not just about not having the money this year. The Braves aren't a team with a payroll that can dump a HUGE amount of money into a guy longterm only to have him bust. We got burned with Olivera and will be paying for that mistake for a very long time. It's just a much bigger risk for us than for a team like the Dodgers.

Amassing a large amount of minor league talent, graduating it, extending players who are successful, and trading from the minor league depth to fill positions of weakness is the path we have to take. It's not sexy, it's not quick, but considering we're going to operate with payroll restrictions now and in the future, it's what we have to do.
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He's 19, he would start as a minor leaguer as a legit prospect and would be an easy first round draft pick. This isn't comparable to Olivera in the least possible sense.
 
Enscheff said:
I'm sorry criticizing the FO offends you so much. Kudos to you for climbing out from under Coppy's desk long enough to make that post though. Now wipe off your chin and get back under there.
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Now can he borrow your towel that you used after you finished off the White Sox GM
 
Enscheff said:
I'm sorry criticizing the FO offends you so much. Kudos to you for climbing out from under Coppy's desk long enough to make that post though. Now wipe off your chin and get back under there.
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Sorry, I'm too busy working and taking care of other stuff to worry about that; I could care less about your opinions on the current FO and their decisions.

I just get tired of coming on here for a few minutes to catch up on Braves news and see you jump into every thread to tell EVERYONE else on this board how F'n smart you think you are and how WE are all a bunch of stupid morons.

You got a lot of nerve and a sh!tty attitude (and likely a very low sense of self worth) to do that...day...after...day...after...day.

From what I can see, I'm not the only one with that opinion either.

Come on here and enjoy the board, be civil and show some respect to the opinions of others like the rest of us, or find somewhere else to go spew your self-serving crap.
 
It would be amazing to add say Robert and Beck/Lewis to the minors. Or if we signed Robert I wouldn't be to upset about us taking a pitcher at 5.
 
Remember how the White Sox are prepared to blow past their pool for one guy after not doing so last summer? Sub-optimal. They sure look like stone cold geniuses.
 
If Quintana can right the ship and bring them a haul back then they could have rebuilt better than us and in a shorter time frame. Crazy.
 
Hudson2 said:
If Quintana can right the ship and bring them a haul back then they could have rebuilt better than us and in a shorter time frame. Crazy.
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Whether it would be a better rebuild is absolutely up for debate, seeing as most publications have us as a clear #1 and don't have the White Sox currently in even the top 3 or 4. But there is absolutely no doubt they started with better assets to give up.
 
Eaton and Sale are both really good. But JUp, Heyward, Kimbrel, and Simmons should have gotten us more top flight talent imo than we got back. We went for quantity over quality for the most part.
 
Hudson2 said:
Eaton and Sale are both really good. But JUp, Heyward, Kimbrel, and Simmons should have gotten us more top flight talent imo than we got back. We went for quantity over quality for the most part.
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No, we didn't. One year of Upton, one year of Heyward, a closer, and a guy with a very limited offensive ceiling are not prime trade pieces. I won't disagree that we potentially could have done better, especially in the Simmons deal, but we also could have done worse overall than getting guys like Fried, Gohara, Swanson, Inciarte, etc. through those moves.

Multiple cheap years of Chris Sale, multiple cheap years of Adam Eaton, and multiple cheap years of Jose Quintana is a way better place to start, it's not even a debate. Especially since the White Sox system is incredibly top heavy, with their top several pieces carrying the system. And the only way to get top pieces like that, generally speaking, is if you have legitimately prime assets to give away. We didn't.
 
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