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I think the target for a return with a guy like Garcia is a player like TD, and honestly something like that is a really good return for a rental.

I don't see anybody on here talking about getting a top-100 prospect back... but there are a bunch of toolsy players outside the top-100 that would be nice to add. I think you target someone with upside that's either coming off injury, or raw and you see if you can develop him.
 
Depending on the return would anyone be interested in keeping him and giving him a qualifying offer? Could net us a pick in the 30's. If he accepts we get him on a 1 year deal. Even if it's 16-17 million, overpaying slightly for 1 isn't a big deal. It could net us a better return if teams think we are serious about keeping him.
 
cajunrevenge said:
Depending on the return would anyone be interested in keeping him and giving him a qualifying offer? Could net us a pick in the 30's. If he accepts we get him on a 1 year deal. Even if it's 16-17 million, overpaying slightly for 1 isn't a big deal. It could net us a better return if teams think we are serious about keeping him.
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I don't like the injury risk that Garcia conveys and we also have young guys who might actually be in our future plans that need innings.

I'm all about dealing him while he's healthy and productive.

Again, this doesn't have to be a great return, find a kid in the low minors with a couple loud tools and see if you can mold him, or a 22 year old in AA with a really good fastball/curve combo that fits into the bullpen in a couple years, or a guy that's fallen out of favor....... I think you can get a piece with nice upside for Garcia, while opening up a slot in the rotation.
 
Enscheff said:
LOL, ok. I'm not sure how many times you guys have to have your unrealistic expectations dashed before you adjust them.

Remember 2 days ago when everyone said Wright was going to sign under slot because he was a Braves fan? Remember when I said there was no chance he signed for anything other than over slot? How did that turn out?
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Saying that available alternatives to Garcia could negatively\positively affect the value of the return for him is unrealistic and where was I ever thinking Wright signs under slot bc he's a braves fan?

I don't follow your post or reasoning that this isn't the case. It just seems like a personal jab?
 
cajunrevenge said:
Depending on the return would anyone be interested in keeping him and giving him a qualifying offer? Could net us a pick in the 30's. If he accepts we get him on a 1 year deal. Even if it's 16-17 million, overpaying slightly for 1 isn't a big deal. It could net us a better return if teams think we are serious about keeping him.
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It's not a crazy idea, and when he's healthy I love him, but he's truly made of glass. I have to pass though I'd like to buy.
 
GovClintonTyree said:
If I understand the saber logic, Kemp is no loss. He is near replacement level in LF, so we should be able to get any swinging dick from Gwinnett in here to fill in for him.
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You are correct. Look at the difference between Adams and Freeman and how it's translated in our win/loss record. Yes, Adams has been a good hitter with the Braves but Freeman was a top 3 hitter in baseball before he got hurt. The real difference between players is a lot less than you would think. The difference between an all-star and an average player is only a couple of wins over the course of a full season. It truly takes a complete team to compete in baseball which is ironic because it's the most individualized of the team sports.
 
thewupk said:
You are correct. Look at the difference between Adams and Freeman and how it's translated in our win/loss record. Yes, Adams has been a good hitter with the Braves but Freeman was a top 3 hitter in baseball before he got hurt. The real difference between players is a lot less than you would think. The difference between an all-star and an average player is only a couple of wins over the course of a full season. It truly takes a complete team to compete in baseball which is ironic because it's the most individualized of the team sports.
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That's why it cracks me up when someone says something stupid like "the difference between a .300 hitter and a .275 hitter is only 1 hit every other week". They don't even know what point they are trying to make when they make those types of statements.

With another LFer the Braves will score less runs, but also give up less runs. Not a super complicated concept to understand.
 
Tapate50 said:
It just seems like a personal jab?
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I made an account instead of just continuing to read specifically so I could block his nonsense and pre-teen-like tendencies. I suggest either ignoring him or blocking him. It makes it much nicer around here.
 
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