Official Draft Day, Post-Draft Thread

zbhargrove said:
Neither was Tarnok....
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Sure, but we knew what it would take to sign Tarnok when we drafted him. He had very late helium and was probably much higher on team boards.

Again, none of this is a surprise to the Braves. Didn't we all do this last year, too? And everything turned out just fine.

If we suddenly only had $50,000 available, I might be worried as well. But $370,000 should be plenty to sign Bacon.

We are way out in front of other teams in getting all these guys signed. You don't think we might be taking a bit more time if we were actually in danger of not signing Bacon and losing a draft pick?
 
Preacher said:
they wouldn't have picked him without knowing what he would sign for. They wouldn't have signed Tarnok overslot without having a really good idea of Bacon's number.

We're not going to forfeit a draft pick.
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Still doesn't make me feel better about having our entire draft come down to something like that without knowing the other guys have signed and what they've signed for. I agree that they have no intentions of surrendering a pick - that won't keep me from worrying until everyone's had physicals and signed.
 
smootness said:
Sure, but we knew what it would take to sign Tarnok when we drafted him. He had very late helium and was probably much higher on team boards.

Again, none of this is a surprise to the Braves. Didn't we all do this last year, too? And everything turned out just fine.

If we suddenly only had $50,000 available, I might be worried as well. But $370,000 should be plenty to sign Bacon.

We are way out in front of other teams in getting all these guys signed. You don't think we might be taking a bit more time if we were actually in danger of not signing Bacon and losing a draft pick?
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Just makes people feel better when those reports are coming from somewhere other than the players' Twitter pages. The only CONFIRMED signings thus far are the top three guys.
 
sturg33 said:
Didn't we have to renege on a deal with a player because we mismanaged the budget?
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Yes, but that was a guy drafted in the 16th round. Losing his slot value didn't mean anything. The guys drafted in the first 10 rounds, you want to have a very good idea of what they'll sign for before you draft them. After that, it doesn't matter nearly enough. We gave Anthony an original offer we could afford, he said no, we thought we had more to offer but it turned out we had not fully done enough calculations on that.

Regardless, that's an entirely different deal. We thought we had more after signing the top 10 round guys than we did. But the top 10 rounds are handled in an entirely different manner.
 
clvclv said:
Just makes people feel better when those reports are coming from somewhere other than the players' Twitter pages. The only CONFIRMED signings thus far are the top three guys.
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And we were ahead of other teams in getting their top guys signed.
 
sturg33 said:
Didn't we have to renege on a deal with a player because we mismanaged the budget?
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They were unable to offer the contract they thought they could to a kid drafted after the tenth pick, yes.

They didn't fail to sign a top 10 pick or forfeit slots in the next draft.

I'd probably default to everything ping to plan rather than assuming a massive screw up but either is a valid decision I guess.
 
clvclv said:
Still doesn't make me feel better about having our entire draft come down to something like that without knowing the other guys have signed and what they've signed for. I agree that they have no intentions of surrendering a pick - that won't keep me from worrying until everyone's had physicals and signed.
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You can worry about It, but it'd be shocking news since no team has ever screwed it up.

On the other hand if they go over let's hope they really go over. Might even be worth it.
 
smootness said:
Yes, but that was a guy drafted in the 16th round. Losing his slot value didn't mean anything. The guys drafted in the first 10 rounds, you want to have a very good idea of what they'll sign for before you draft them. After that, it doesn't matter nearly enough. We gave Anthony an original offer we could afford, he said no, we thought we had more to offer but it turned out we had not fully done enough calculations on that.

Regardless, that's an entirely different deal. We thought we had more after signing the top 10 round guys than we did. But the top 10 rounds are handled in an entirely different manner.
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I'm not saying they're apples to apples.

Just saying they have shown incompetence before
 
Southcack77 said:
You can worry about It, but it'd be shocking news since no team has ever screwed it up.

On the other hand if they go over let's hope they really go over. Might even be worth it.
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Except they didn't draft to really go over.... we talked about it in the draft thread; it might be worth it to pay the tax and surrender picks if you go BPA at every spot and just go balls out for one class, but that isn't what we did this year.

There's no way they bungled this, no team ever has. They know what Bacon is going to sign for.
 
sturg33 said:
I'm not saying they're apples to apples.

Just saying they have shown incompetence before
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Not really applicable at all, as others have pointed out - the top-10 picks are a different animal than the rest. They made a mistake, but they pick guys in the top-10 with that budget very much in mind.
 
Preacher said:
Not really applicable at all, as others have pointed out - the top-10 picks are a different animal than the rest. They made a mistake, but they pick guys in the top-10 with that budget very much in mind.
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The comment I was responding implied that the Braves know what they're doing with managing budget.

Last year - while a different scenario - they proved they didn't.

Again, it's really OK to criticize the FO every now and then. God knows they've earned it.

i'm uncomfortable as well with how little room we have... but yes, I do assume the Braves are prepared and are aware. Otherwise, they all should truly be fired for incompetence.
 
sturg33 said:
The comment I was responding implied that the Braves know what they're doing with managing budget.

Last year - while a different scenario - they proved they didn't.

Again, it's really OK to criticize the FO every now and then. God knows they've earned it.

i'm uncomfortable as well with how little room we have... but yes, I do assume the Braves are prepared and are aware. Otherwise, they all should truly be fired for incompetence.
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If they screwed up the entire draft (which is a small possibility since they should have signed all the low money picks before committing huge money to Wright), the pozzy-Barves will still be here spinning and derping to defend them haha.

I don't think there's more than a 5% chance they have screwed this up though. This FO is average, and average FOs can handle the draft.
 
sturg33 said:
The comment I was responding implied that the Braves know what they're doing with managing budget.

Last year - while a different scenario - they proved they didn't.

Again, it's really OK to criticize the FO every now and then. God knows they've earned it.

i'm uncomfortable as well with how little room we have... but yes, I do assume the Braves are prepared and are aware. Otherwise, they all should truly be fired for incompetence.
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No, the post you quoted was talking about everyone freaking out last year because we didn't have all of the top 10 guys signed and weren't sure we would be able to, and yet we did. And that is exactly what is going to happen this year as well.
 
Preacher said:
Except they didn't draft to really go over.... we talked about it in the draft thread; it might be worth it to pay the tax and surrender picks if you go BPA at every spot and just go balls out for one class, but that isn't what we did this year.

There's no way they bungled this, no team ever has. They know what Bacon is going to sign for.
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Yeah, I'm with you.

But if they somehow did go over there are some guys they drafted who are going to college now who are prospects. Might as well sign them all.

I don't think it's realistic that they screwed this up though.

I suspect they sign bacon with room for a couple modest overslots down the draft.
 
smootness said:
No, the post you quoted was talking about everyone freaking out last year because we didn't have all of the top 10 guys signed and weren't sure we would be able to, and yet we did. And that is exactly what is going to happen this year as well.
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That's exactly what is going to happen almost every year because teams are going to blow through most of their cap in the first ten picks and the idea is to spend it all.

It should always be tight.
 
smootness said:
Sure, but we knew what it would take to sign Tarnok when we drafted him. He had very late helium and was probably much higher on team boards.

Again, none of this is a surprise to the Braves. Didn't we all do this last year, too? And everything turned out just fine.

If we suddenly only had $50,000 available, I might be worried as well. But $370,000 should be plenty to sign Bacon.

We are way out in front of other teams in getting all these guys signed. You don't think we might be taking a bit more time if we were actually in danger of not signing Bacon and losing a draft pick?
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I'm not worried. Was just making a point. Bacon could easily go to Miss State and build more value.
 
sturg33 said:
The comment I was responding implied that the Braves know what they're doing with managing budget.

Last year - while a different scenario - they proved they didn't.

Again, it's really OK to criticize the FO every now and then. God knows they've earned it.

i'm uncomfortable as well with how little room we have... but yes, I do assume the Braves are prepared and are aware. Otherwise, they all should truly be fired for incompetence.
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Yes it is perfectly fine to criticize the FO, but you're bringing up a point that really isn't applicable IMO.

And yes, screwing up something in the top 10 that forfeits a draft pick would be inexcusable.

But this is much ado about nothing.
 
Preacher said:
Yes it is perfectly fine to criticize the FO, but you're bringing up a point that really isn't applicable IMO.

And yes, screwing up something in the top 10 that forfeits a draft pick would be inexcusable.

But this is much ado about nothing.
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I've never seen such sensitivity about the FO in my 20 years of being a Braves fan.

It's almost gotten political
 
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