Harper is an all time talent. If Kershaw hit FA he would command just as much.
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Harper is an all time talent. If Kershaw hit FA he would command just as much.
Heyward
<B>Voted Worst Poster <br>'13, '14, '15 (Co-Winner
Kershaw can opt out that same year but i would guess he does it just to get more years and a little more AAV from LA.
The cost of trading for a controlled ace is expensive. The cost of trading for any type of controlled elite talent is going to be expensive. FA position players earn more $$ per WAR than their pitching equivalents. It just may not seem that way the last few offseasons because we haven't seen those elite hitters hit the open market. Also position prospects are valued more than their pitching equivalents.
He has a 243 BABIP this year. I have a feeling he will be fine.
Of course Kershaw would. He's the best pitcher since Maddux and likely ends up top 10 all-time barring injury.
Using Harper is the same argument though.
Someone like Machado vs. Strasburg is a an interesting argument. Probably Macahdo gets more.
Heyward
<B>Voted Worst Poster <br>'13, '14, '15 (Co-Winner
He'll be 25 by the time he's a FA, i'm sure 3/4 of baseball will be throwing him huge offers.
Fair enough. Price and Scherzer are two recent examples of top tier starters getting 30 million per year on the open market. I do see Machado clearing that easily.
Let me circle back around on something. If Harper and other big names are about to get that kind of money...if we could make a trade for Stanton that included Kemp (and not many prospects)...why would we not do it. If we are talking $400-$500 mil for players in the next few years...as crazy as that sounds...could be decent value (if you add shedding Kemp).
Heyward
<B>Voted Worst Poster <br>'13, '14, '15 (Co-Winner
i'd rather make a play for LoCain this winter.
Cain, Ender, Acuna would be a nasty defensive outfield.
The Stanton contract is going to be worse than the Kemp deal in the not so distant future. Surely no one expects him to age any better than Matt has, and backloading that contract makes it a death knoll for teams trying to acquire Stanton.
I'm not sure that deal doesn't eventually wind up worse than Boston's deal with Panda.
I'm not sure that deal doesn't eventually wind up worse than Boston's deal with Panda.
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
the length of Stanton's contract makes it very risky
Southcack77
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No.
cajunrevenge
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If its up to me I would keep our prospects and only sign short term FA contracts then go after Harper. I could only imagine the offense with Freeman and Harper.
Southcack77
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I can't think of any dumber idea than trading for Stanton.
Acquiring Stanton - even if you were able to unload Kemp's short-term money - would mean there wouldn't be money to extend Swanson, Albies, Acuna, Freeman (in the event they could tack on an extra two or three years to his deal at this point), or any of the arms.
No one other than big market clubs can afford to swallow that contract without crippling themselves IMO.
I would feel comfortable giving Harper 40M per season for 10 years. Thats how you build a dynasty with all this other young talent on the way.
NinersSBChamps
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Legit question. Are any of the awesome prospects we got in any of those trades helping this team?
zbhargrove
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I was mainly being snarky, but you're right he will most likely be fine. I'd be more worried about his two replaced knees in the long run.