8/21 ECLIPSE MONDAY MINORS FINAL ... Collmenter is lights out again

Enscheff said:
The presence of Mallex is going to allow the Rays to trade Kiermaier for a haul soon.
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Lot of praise for two win caliber player.

But fair enough. You and I are both used to being excited about one win guys. Easy to forget what a good player looks like
 
chop2chip said:
Lot of praise for two win caliber player.

But fair enough. You and I are both used to being excited about one win guys. Easy to forget what a good player looks like
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That's just what the Rays do. They will trade their 4+ win guy for 3-4 guys projected to produce 2+ wins, and then replace him with a 2+ win guy.

Eventually, one of those 2+ wins guys will blossom into another 4+ win guy...and they do the whole thing over.
 
Enscheff said:
That's just what the Rays do. They will trade their 4+ win guy for 3-4 guys projected to produce 2+ wins, and then replace him with a 2+ win guy.

Eventually, one of those 2+ wins guys will blossom into another 4+ win guy...and they do the whole thing over.
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You sure you want to use the Rays as a model franchise on maximizing value?
 
smootness said:
You sure you want to use the Rays as a model franchise on maximizing value?
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Absolutely. Their model plus a bottom payroll has them competitive almost every year. Their model coupled with a $120M+ payroll should make for a consistent playoff team.
 
smootness said:
You think they would have a guy who averages around 90 on his fastball anywhere in the top 100?
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Probably. I can't get any real info on how hard he consistently throws.

What I do know is when these guys get to Atlanta they end up throwing significantly softer than the prospect reports claim. Newk was billed as a 95-97 monster who now averages 93. Sims was supposedly a 95+ guy who now averages 91. Fried was reportedly in the upper 90s earlier this year and impressing everyone, now he's around 93 out of the BP when he can let it fly for 1-2 innings.

So yes, Allard probably does average 90 MPH because his scouting report says "His fastball will sit in the low-90s, with the ability to reach back for a little more when needed."

Do you have some other data I've never seen? Or is this just another post of yours with nothing to contribute other than a contrarian comment?
 
The crying shame I saw Tuesday is what potential Connor Lien has if not for his gawdawful swing. He ran down fly balls all night and had a double and triple. But he's struck out over 140 times this year.
 
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