Julio3000
<B>A Chip Off the Old Rock</B>
What's the net economic impact of DACA?
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What's the net economic impact of DACA?
Well, they aren't being helped, they are being ****ed for doing the right thing. The legal thing. The admirable thing.
It isn't a fast food worker vs. a hospital worker scenario.
It's two fast food workers, both getting paid $15 an hour. Except, one worker spits on the burgers. And you have made the spitter a manager, because you think you have compassion.
And then, to add insult to injury, you are telling the other guy, the one who is just working hard and doing his job correctly, "Yo, just keep working harder bro! Something is coming for you!"
Julio3000
<B>A Chip Off the Old Rock</B>
I'm not sure I get the spitting analogy.
Its difficult to ascertain that. I think the short term will be a negative but overall the long term benefits will outweigh the short term loss.
Julio3000
<B>A Chip Off the Old Rock</B>
Yeah.
Who should receive priority on the gold-laden path to citizenship? Illegal aliens or legal aliens? Simple question.
jpx7
Very Flirtatious, but Doubts What Love Is.
Might've been ****ty and vote-pandering, but its legality hasn't been fully judged.
And I blame a purposefully intractable Republican Congress for the EO as much as the former President; it reeks of something most mainstream Republicans were fine implementing, but—due to pressure from more extreme elements of their constituency—didn't want to be seen officially voting "for" it. (The half-assed healthcare overhaul under Obama falls in this category, as well.)
Julio3000
<B>A Chip Off the Old Rock</B>
And you think that's a solid recap of the congressional opposition to reform?
jpx7
Very Flirtatious, but Doubts What Love Is.
Sometimes it's to **** on it—which, in proper proportion, is good for fertility.
goldfly
<B>if my thought dreams could be seen</B>
i am totally on board helping illegal aliens who came here when they were 6 years old etc when their parents brought them here and know no other country except this one
the rest is political bull**** in my view
priority? this isn't a triage scenario where we have to pick and choose one or the other.
Julio3000
<B>A Chip Off the Old Rock</B>
In this analogy you're comparing people who were illegally transported to the US as minors, were granted deferred status, and have to work, study, and keep their noses clean as condition of staying with someone who spits a hamburger.
So, yes, ****ty analogy.
That's true, but the consensus was that it wouldn't pass legal muster. Which makes Trump's decision here all the more mystifying, to me. Courts were literally days from taking it up.
The problem with the EO is that DACA likely wouldn't have ever been passed as a standalone bill. Previous iterations of legislation that included DACA also included border security concessions and new visa classes.
I get that you are hung up on 2013 and freedom caucus bitterness, but what about missed opportunities in 2006/2007? Who do you blame for that?
So why don't you want to help legal aliens who came here when they were 6?
Their emotional circumstances are exactly the same.
That's political bull****.
goldfly
<B>if my thought dreams could be seen</B>
voters in republican states that somehow didn't get the democratic senate to 60 votes so we wouldn't have to worry about republicans who said "our only goal is to make Obama a one term president" and blocked everything he did?
goldfly
<B>if my thought dreams could be seen</B>
i do
i have told you multiple times in the last couple posts that i do
hell, it was in the post you quoted with me saying i don't see why we have to pick and choose one or the other. i'm fine helping both
No, I'm comparing people who were LEGALLY transported to the US as minors, who are faced with H1B/OPT regulations, fees, and a ****ing LOTTERY, with people who were ILLEGALLY transported to the US as minors, who are gifted a work permit in exchange for paying $500 every two years.