Truck attack in NYC

[nsacpi]

Some crackerjack operation you think this is.

If necessary I will on the record as seconding it. But my preference is to just go on the record as thinking about it.

 

[mqt]

Mike Pence: I don't think gays should be allowed to marry

Muslims: Gays should be murdered

Goldfly: Mike Pence and Muslims are the same

You're better than this.

 

[goldfly]

conservative former Indiana governor about his views on abortion and homosexuality and, when a conversation with an unnamed legal scholar turned to gay rights, the president motioned to Pence and allegedly joked, "Don't ask that guy — he wants to hang them all!"

So, yeah, even from your example

They are similar

 

[goldfly]

And Christianity, as a matter of heart transfer, doesn't spread well by the sword. Never has never will.

Except that is exactly how it was spread

 

[BedellBrave]

I have plenty of theories and suppositions, but why don't you just tell me why you think that would be.

Sure. I would think that a secularist like yourself (and not all are like you) would believe that those wanting to attract followers and have people believe their stories about their Messiah would want to present a peace-promoting one. Am I correct?

 

[BedellBrave]

For the record, you calling anything patronizing is funny. Reach yourself.

Hello Runnin. How are you? Glad you could join us.

Btw, do you know how great it is to see poor Muslims receiving top-notch and sanitary medical care and education? It's worth the risks.

 

[BedellBrave]

I thought about seconding this, but for the record I decided not too.

For the record, you missed your opportunity...wait, no you didn't.

 

[BedellBrave]

But there's the rub.

How so? I don't get your point.

 

[BedellBrave]

It maybe be the staggered nature of the clauses, but I'm genuinely not sure what you're asking / getting at here. Regardless, all I admitted was that I'm personally a lot more inspired by the literary figure of Christ than of Muhammad, qualified by the admission that I'm "no more willing to call Islam a cult of violence based on Muhammad's biography than I am to call Judaism a cult of violence because of David's".

Your original response to me totally dismissed any connection to Islam per se - at least that's the way I read it. Was I wrong?

 

[BedellBrave]

Well, if you don’t second it then it doesn’t go on the record.

I'm willing to recognize it as a second. Any further discussion?

 

[BedellBrave]

Can I put it on the record that I thought about it.

We've got you down. Don't fret.

 

[BedellBrave]

dems fightin words!

Have at it.

 

[BedellBrave]

If necessary I will on the record as seconding it. But my preference is to just go on the record as thinking about it.

You are having so much fun. It's rather cute. For the record, I'm glad I've brought you a measure of happiness!

 

[BedellBrave]

Except that is exactly how it was spread

Not really (note how I phrased it). Sadly, a nominal-Christianity has been promulgated in part by a sort of Constantinian Church (when the Church - Western Church - failed to distinguish two kingdoms). But even noting that, the greatest expansions of Christianity have come thru persuasive evangelism, mercy ministries, and the witness of martyrs. Two present examples are the Church in China and in Iran.

 

[Hawk]

I'm willing to recognize it as a second. Any further discussion?

So recognized.

 

[nsacpi]

So recognized.

Thank you, but for once I have nothing more to add to the discussion.

Except on a serious note. I do think there is a very big problem in some Islamic countries regarding the treatment of non-Muslims and Muslims who wish to change religions. However, I do not think the policy implication from that is to institute a religious test for potential immigrants to this country (which I think would not pass legal muster anyhow).

 

[sturg33]

So, yeah, even from your example

They are similar

Wait, I thought everything Trump said is a lie?

something something orange

something something piece of ****

 

[BedellBrave]

Thank you, but for once I have nothing more to add to the discussion.

Except on a serious note. I do think there is a very big problem in some Islamic countries regarding the treatment of non-Muslims and Muslims who wish to change religions. However, I do not think the policy implication from that is to institute a religious test for potential immigrants to this country (which I think would not pass legal muster anyhow).

Nor do I.

 

[thethe]

Merit based immigration would eliminate a large percentage of this threat.

 

[Jaw]

Thank you, but for once I have nothing more to add to the discussion.

Except on a serious note. I do think there is a very big problem in some Islamic countries regarding the treatment of non-Muslims and Muslims who wish to change religions. However, I do not think the policy implication from that is to institute a religious test for potential immigrants to this country (which I think would not pass legal muster anyhow).

Assuming it would pass legal muster (and I agree with you that it would not), why wouldn't it be a good idea?

I know how that sounds, but I mean this as a thought exercise.

What benefit do additional Muslims add to the US that we can't get from other places that do not bear the obvious risk of the....problems so prevalent in the current day practitioners of Islam?

Why wouldn't we be better off by suspending Muslim immigration and allowing more non-Muslim immigrants from Poland, South Korea, Costa Rica, India, or Ghana to take their place?

What are the positives that outweigh any increase in the likelihood of a greater number of terrorist attacks?