Things They Say

“But justice roll down like waters and righteousness like an ever-flowing stream” Amos 5:24

— James Comey
 
"It'll be gone in 6 months on crack cocaine"

City Coucilman Tom McBroom Sr on the settlement Philando Castille's girlfriend got for his murder.
 
“I think not having the estate tax recognizes the people that are investing,As opposed to those that are just spending every darn penny they have, whether it’s on booze or women or movies.”
- Sen Charles Grassley (R) Iowa
 
"You guys (Alvin Kamara and Mark Ingram of the Saints) get to the Super Bowl and I'm gon' get me a grill and rock it on TV."

Deion Sanders
 
'“It’s death to Democrats,” said conservative economist Stephen Moore, who advised Trump’s campaign on tax policy.

“They go after state and local taxes, which weakens public employee unions. They go after university endowments, and universities have become play pens of the left. And getting rid of the mandate is to eventually dismantle Obamacare,” Moore said in an interview, arguing that it would accelerate “a death spiral” in the health-care law’s marketplaces.'

There is no more subtext.
 
I'd love to understand how any supports estate taxes other than just gouging rich people after they died

Redistribution of wealth without directly penalizing the earner of said wealth. It's a clear win, and it only affects the super-rich anyways.
 
Redistribution of wealth without directly penalizing the earner of said wealth. It's a clear win, and it only affects the super-rich anyways.

Is a $5.5 million threshold (including real estate, stock portfolio, and [small] businesses) truly at the "super-rich" level, though?
 
Is a $5.5 million threshold (including real estate, stock portfolio, and [small] businesses) truly at the "super-rich" level, though?

It is from where most Americans sit.

But I'd be fine tweaking it to exclude [small] businesses and some real estate (the family home, the [small] farm, and such).
 
But why the negative connotation? Does the default condition of these people merit that?
 
It is from where most Americans sit.

But I'd be fine tweaking it to exclude [small] businesses and some real estate (the family home, the [small] farm, and such).

I don't know. "Super rich", to me, is somebody like Jeff Bezos, who makes $52 million per day.

A person with $5.5 million in total assets is ... well off.

But, yeah, small businesses should absolutely be excluded and I think there should be a cap (relative to any number of things, such as charitable giving or cumulative income taxes paid) on how much can be collected.
 
I don't know. "Super rich", to me, is somebody like Jeff Bezos, who makes $52 million per day.

A person with $5.5 million in total assets is ... well off.

Most Americans don't have the sort of economic privilege to appreciate or care about that distinction. I contend that $5.5 million in total assets is substantially better than "well off".

But, yeah, small businesses should absolutely be excluded and I think there should be a cap (relative to any number of things, such as charitable giving or cumulative income taxes paid) on how much can be collected.

As I said, I am absolutely for intelligent revision of the tax-code. The bill heading to reconciliation is very much not that.
 
Most Americans don't have the sort of economic privilege to appreciate or care about that distinction. I contend that $5.5 million in total assets is substantially better than "well off".

The average American has a net worth of ~$200-300K (depending on what source you want to employ) between the ages of 55-75. Not inclusive of assets like a home, cars, inheritance, etc. Exclusive of combined income/same set of spousal assets (which are generally passed on to the surviving spouse after death). You add a small business to that and $5.5 million is a low bar. Maybe my quibble here is "most Americans" seems too broad. It's a lot of money to impoverished Americans and true middle class Americans, but it's not an unachievable sum of money to "most" Americans - or, at least, not enough to be categorically labeled apart of a "super rich" stratum, by comparison (especially when the individuals making exponentially more are the real reason the estate tax could be a beneficial thing).
 
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