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Probably the right move, don't wanna risk anything.
GDT 9/27/2013: Braves v. Phillies
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Probably the right move, don't wanna risk anything.
The only benefit of Schafer being on the roster is he's a left handed hitter. Problem is he hasn't hit anything and Elliot is a lefty.
Braves1976
It's OVER 5,000!
Yea, like I said I do believe your case is solid. I just doubt Schafer is left off regardless.
bravesnumberone
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Been working and on the road all night, but a freaking great job by Medlen tonight. Now let's win tomorrow and Go Cubbies.
VirginiaBrave
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Waah...cry me a river for Lee. He lost a baseball game. He didn't lose anything of any real value and he pitched well. No different than Smoltz in game seven of '91 WS. Thats what you compare tonight to.
Braves1976
It's OVER 5,000!
I wouldn't compare it to that game. It's too big a game to compare a regular season game that means nothing to Philly. Plus Smoltz didn't lose unlike Lee, Pena lost it for Atlanta in the 10th inning. As much as I try to forget that game it still comes back now and then. I've never been so crushed after a baseball loss in my life than after that game. The closest I've been to that feeling again is last year's so called one game playoff.
That said, I agree with your point about not crying for Lee. Hudson pitched a gem against the Dodgers and lost with the only run he allowed being a missed catch (basically an error but earned because it wasn't touched). At least in Lee's case the run was legit and he gave it up (not his defense failing him).
Lee's 'loss' is just further proof that wins and losses for a pitcher should be an obsolete stat. It never will be due to the history of the game but wins and losses are a team stat. Yes, I believe the starting pitcher has the most control of any of the other players whether the team wins or not but it's still a team stat. And it should be treated that way. Lee pitched great and most educated fans don't care about wins and losses for a pitcher.
There is no disputing it anymore. As of this moment Kris Medlen is our best starting pitcher and he is pitching his best at the right time.
zitothebrave
Connoisseur of Minors
zitothebrave
Connoisseur of Minors
Need him to keep dominating next week. Hopefully our pitching goes strong through the post season.
Agreed. But are you ready to admit that for the last 1 1/2 years that Medlen has been the best starting pitcher?
zitothebrave
Connoisseur of Minors
He has by a smidgen. Minor has been better this year, but Medlen was better in the second half of last year.
NYCBrave
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That's a nice break for us if that's the case
The bullpen game for Philly is probably why St. Louis moved up Wainwright.
If Philly is basically throwing the game, they'll need Wainwright to at least get them through to tomorrow and hope we lose.
If Philly is basically throwing the game, they'll need Wainwright to at least get them through to tomorrow and hope we lose.
zitothebrave
Connoisseur of Minors
I don't think Waino goes too hard today. They may pull him early so he can go game 1 with plenty of rest.
Minor has barely been better this year. In the first half it wasn't close but Minor has taken a little step back in the second half while Medlen has been flat out dominant. Overall the difference in the last year and a half has been about a .20 advantage for Medlen in FIP. Not sure if you would call that a smidgen but both have been really good.