Also a BB rate under 4 up until 2 starts ago and a very good ground ball rate. I'm not gonna pretend that he hasn't been getting some good luck. But to act like he hasn't been making strong improvements is silly as well.
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Also a BB rate under 4 up until 2 starts ago and a very good ground ball rate. I'm not gonna pretend that he hasn't been getting some good luck. But to act like he hasn't been making strong improvements is silly as well.
Didn't see it posted, but the Braves are 1 among several teams that are likely interested in Nathan Eovaldi, per Rays beat writer Bill Chastain. He says our scouts, along with Red Sox, Cubs, and Phillies, were in attendance on his July 2 start.
He's not my first option, but he's having a nice year and should come relatively cheap (hopefully of the Muller/Sanchez variety, but certainly no more than Wentz)
He's not my first option, but he's having a nice year and should come relatively cheap (hopefully of the Muller/Sanchez variety, but certainly no more than Wentz)
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
Considering that Camargo and Swanson both hit lefties better (using career data), I think it would be better to get someone who is stronger against right handed pitching.
When you don't understand why the "improvement" was happening, and someone who knows more than you explains it several times, then yes, it is silly.
When that same person routinely explains things and has been right the vast majority of the time, and you still argue, then yes, it is silly.
And yet you continue on, being silly.
This article is about the Red Sox, but the LH BP arms mentioned are the same ones the Braves should be targeting.
https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2018/07/red-sox-interested-in-significant-bullpen-addition.html
Pretty much the exact names we've been throwing out around here for a month.
https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2018/07/red-sox-interested-in-significant-bullpen-addition.html
Pretty much the exact names we've been throwing out around here for a month.
They still have nearly 3 weeks. If I were an Os fan I'd be upset if they weren't targeting players like that at this point.
That's not saying they won't botch this though...
On the flip side, I don't see the Yanks need for Macho unless a young IFer is going out for an impact arm.
Instead of belittling other posters, you might try being open minded instead. I've not once insulted you and you've yet to address any of my argument if you think it's so dumb.
Literally 8-9 days ago, Newk had a BB rate under 4, a groundball rate of 48 percent, and a hard hit rate that's better than average. Those aren't improvements? Those numbers can't support a 3+ WAR? Give me a break. I've already mentioned he has gotten little lucky on BABIP and HR rate. Those aren't the only numbers that matter though and he's clearly shown improvements accross the board that aren't relatable to HR rate and BABIP.
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Ahh, another "Enscheff is the bad guy" comment.
So stop the bull**** where you act like I was the first to fire shots.
You're wrong about Newk. You decided to talk **** to me. I'm going to remind you of how wrong you are for a while now.
I posted that because YOU WERE WRONG. That wasn't an opinion. You listed 3 pitchers that you claimed were the ONLY pitchers who fit that criteria. That was incorrect as there were most certainly more (Liriano being one of them, I forget the others, but I can search again if you'd like) and it was also a bit of cherry picking considering there were a several other pitchers who numbers just missed qualifying. Sorry if that enraged you. But it was true.
So now I'm wrong about Newk after 37 starts, even though everything I've stated is true? He isn't making improvements in BB rate, hard hit rate, ground ball percentage, and other keys areas? He didn't have a 2.7 WAR after his first 32 starts of his professional career?
May be he'll never reach my "lofty" expectations of a consistent 3-4 WAR pitcher like Gio Gonzalez. But at least I'm willing to accept criticism and listen to opposing views (and by the way, I'm not wrong).
Are you really trying to double down on the “enscheff was wrong” comment?
I very clearly stated the cutoff was 100 IP. That value was chosen because that’s how many IP Newk threw. I’m sure lowering it 90 IP would have grabbed a few more failures to offset the success Gio represents.
The original return set of data included the names you mentioned, including Liriano. It was then later down to guys with 9+ K/9 to get the final list of 3. Do I need to go quote the posts?
Face it, you’re wrong about Newk. I’m not going to let you forget it either. Get as angry as you want, you’ll still be wrong.
How wrong do you want to be? Let me know and I’ll take the time to quote the posts in question.
What the hell are you even talking about that list with 9+ K/9? Liriano in 2012 had both a K/9 greater than 9 and a BB rate of at least 5 in at least 100 innings. It matches your data set to a T.
I'm clearly not the one mad here. And I am not wrong about Newk (though certainly I could be wrong about his consistent 3 WAR projection, but that's 2-3 years from finding out).
Still waiting on you to prove wrong on how he isn't improving.
I'm clearly not the one mad here. And I am not wrong about Newk (though certainly I could be wrong about his consistent 3 WAR projection, but that's 2-3 years from finding out).
Still waiting on you to prove wrong on how he isn't improving.
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I never once said he wasn't improving...so I guess I'm still waiting on you to prove that I ever said it.
In fact....
Don't sorry, we will rehash who ends up being right about Newk.
SJ24
New member
This is just getting out of hand now. You need to be banned for the sake of board comity.
While you provide great points, you are way too irascible and thin-skinned to be taken seriously.
You have the personality of Donald Trump without the money or pretty women.
blueagleace1
Playing the Waiting Game
He's the main reason I don't post anymore.
CyYoung31
Shift Leader
You should post more.
Not necessarily banned. Put him onto his own sub-forum where he can't bother others who don't want to deal with him.
