nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
what does this have to do with going the extra mile
Around the League: 2017 offseason edition / 2018 Season
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what does this have to do with going the extra mile
I'm going the extra mile as a fan by watching rival teams.
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
all right...i will accept that
Scherzer with 4 walks is odd
Acuña’s Bat Flip
NL Rookie of the Year
Way to go Max!
zitothebrave
Connoisseur of Minors
Not really.
He's not even the best pitcher in the NL. He's got universally worse stats than De Grom and Scherzer.
I'm personally not a fan of giving MVP to a pitcher unless what they're doing is truly legendary. But if you were to give it to a SP it would certainly right now go to De Grom or Scherzer. Nola is arguably not even better than Corbin, though traditionalists would say he is.
Southcack77
Well-known member
He leads in pitching only bWAR which is the better WAR, IMO, for evaluating a season’s accomplishment.
fWAR is a little more fanciful.
I don’t mind awards having a team success element to them. Just to make it interesting.
Southcack77
Well-known member
I’d guess Carpenter has the edge for MVP at the moment.
i think adding in team element works unless someone is just leaps and bounds better on a bad team. that isn’t the case. and as south said, nola does lead in bWAR which one could argue is better for pitchers (considering it more measures what they’ve actually done).
the phillies wouldn’t be in the conversation without nola. every top player is obviously very valuable to their team, but he’s just been an absolute rock.
salmagundy
Boras' Client
Did the Braves claim Harvey?? I wouldn't think so, but....
Braves1976
It's OVER 5,000!
they never had interest in him before so why would they now?
zitothebrave
Connoisseur of Minors
I consider all WAR to have flaws. rWAR punishes pitchers who concede runs because of their defense. fWAR attempts to remove defense from valuation. Downsides to both situations. Reality is Scherzer strikes out more, walks less, has the same ERA, despite Nola having an incredibly lucky HR/FB rate.
Southcack77
Well-known member
He’s in the ballpark with the other two.
If his performance ends up being instrumental to his team making playoffs or coming damned close I think that is something that could reasonably tip the thing in his direction.
“Luck” is interesting in predicting future performance but has very little place in evaluating what actually happened in my view. What happened, happened. No need to consider what should or could have happened.
We got a ways to go. I don’t think we have any definite leaders for MVPs or cya in the NL.
Acuña’s Bat Flip
NL Rookie of the Year
Matt Carpenter will probably steal MVP from Freeman.
this drives me nuts sometimes. yeah, maybe a players performance won't continue long-term. but what they did, they did. that was the actual result of their performance. saying it doesn't count as much because it was "lucky" is really stupid. it's great for long-term evaluating tho.