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jpx7 said:
The steady-hand for a young, surprise-performing team is yuge. He may not be the tactician the Braves need going forward, but I absolutely think he aided, rather than hindered, the Braves’ tank-to-title regular season performance.
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Snitker still has his moments with bullpen management, but he's much improved over the last couple of seasons. Something to remember here is that Anthropolous had Gibbons in Toronto and Gibbons doesn't have the baseball equivalent of a Phi Beta Kappa key hanging around his neck. And Gibbons will be available.
 
Braves1976 said:
injuries being among the reasons doesn't even speak to how good or bad their managing this year. But i will add that i agree with some of the criticism in his direction.
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What I’m getting at here is that I think you’re irrationally critical of Snitker. You came to the conclusion a long time ago that he was a bad manager and have been banging that drum with never ending confirmation bias ever since. Case in point: you use his minor league managerial record to point to his quality as a manager like that has any relevance whatsoever.

Is he a good tactician? No. Is he a bad tactician? I’d say yes, much of the time. Is that the least important part of a manager’s job over 162 games? Yes. And I think he’s proven his worth at the more important managerial duties, like leading a clubhouse.
 
CyYoung31 said:
Braves will still find a way to **** it up. I think it’s overrated. To get to where we want to go, we’re going to have to beat the best teams.
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Well the Dodgers missing the playoffs takes the best team out of the NL picture imo. And since only one team would come out of the AL then the Braves technically just have to beat one of the best teams
 
CyYoung31 said:
What I’m getting at here is that I think you’re irrationally critical of Snitker. You came to the conclusion a long time ago that he was a bad manager and have been banging that drum with never ending confirmation bias ever since. Case in point: you use his minor league managerial record to point to his quality as a manager like that has any relevance whatsoever.

Is he a good tactician? No. Is he a bad tactician? I’d say yes, much of the time. Is that the least important part of a manager’s job over 162 games? Yes. And I think he’s proven his worth at the more important managerial duties, like leading a clubhouse.
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i heard the same arguments from posters here defending fredi in the past, i expect everyone here will forget that too later on once snit is replaced. And no im not saying he will be replaced anytime soon, but maybe after next year.
 
Braves1976 said:
i heard the same arguments from posters here defending fredi in the past, i expect everyone will forget that too later on once snit is replaced. And no im not saying he will be replaced anytime soon, but maybe after next year.
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Not many accused Fredi of being a players manager like Snit apparently is and Bobby was.
 
CyYoung31 said:
What I’m getting at here is that I think you’re irrationally critical of Snitker. You came to the conclusion a long time ago that he was a bad manager and have been banging that drum with never ending confirmation bias ever since. Case in point: you use his minor league managerial record to point to his quality as a manager like that has any relevance whatsoever.

Is he a good tactician? No. Is he a bad tactician? I’d say yes, much of the time. Is that the least important part of a manager’s job over 162 games? Yes. And I think he’s proven his worth at the more important managerial duties, like leading a clubhouse.
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Snitker really is a poor tactician. That can be frustrating because that is something that could easily be fixed with a little education on the matter. But in regards to his ability to manage players and their different personalities, he might be one of the best in the league. I can't recall a team ever having as much chemistry as this current Braves' club. They seem to legitimately love being around each other all the time. That is extremely important.
 
Braves1976 said:
i heard the same arguments from posters here defending fredi in the past, i expect everyone here will forget that too later on once snit is replaced. And no im not saying he will be replaced anytime soon, but maybe after next year.
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I don't recall hearing any arguments saying that Fredi was loved by his players in the same way that Snit is or somebody like Bobby was. Happy employees make for better business. Happy players make for better production.
 
Braves1976 said:
They did before that Sept. collapse, he was compared to Bobby Cox a lot when winning. More by announcers than posters though.
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The assumption early on that he would be like Bobby since he was in the organization for so long but it was obvious after awhile how bad he was
 
thewupk said:
The assumption early on that he would be like Bobby since he was in the organization for so long but it was obvious after awhile how bad he was
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it isn't surprising people have selective memory defending these so called old school managers that are poor at managing bullpens etc. I expect it given the season we've had thus far.
 
Braves1976 said:
it isn't surprising people have selective memory defending these so called old school managers that are poor at managing bullpens etc. I expect it given the season we've had thus far.
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it isn't surprising people have confirmation bias attacking this adapting manager that has 1-2 skills that may be suboptimal. I expect it given the obvious blunders he has made this season with the bullpen.

Wow this is easy! Can I do this every time in lieu of an actual argument?

Edit: I know you're argument is that he is bad at in game management lol. I'm just trollin'. I do think that you are overestimating the cost of that vs. the benefit of the chemistry he brings and the fact that the players love him.
 
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Braves1976 said:
i heard the same arguments from posters here defending fredi in the past, i expect everyone here will forget that too later on once snit is replaced. And no im not saying he will be replaced anytime soon, but maybe after next year.
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Not really. Fredi kept a good clubhouse but wasn’t really a leader and players weren’t willing to run through a brick wall for him.
 
thewupk said:
Well the Dodgers missing the playoffs takes the best team out of the NL picture imo. And since only one team would come out of the AL then the Braves technically just have to beat one of the best teams
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They are the best team, but we can just as easily get knocked out by the Rockies in a 5 game series. Braves would probably lose if they had to play the Orioles in the NLDS.
 
Braves1976 said:
If Rockies somehow catch and beat out Dodgers for division, Bud Black is easily manager of the year IMO. Even a wild card for Rockies makes Black manager of the year for me.
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Snit is winning MOY whether you like it or not, or whether he "deserves" it or not. You don't think there are delusional Rox fans just like you who think Black is a terrible manager?
 
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