CrimsonCowboy
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Texans fans are apparently confronting Matt Schaub at his HOME! Pathetic
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- Thread starter zitothebrave
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You don't waste high draft picks on multiple OL. This upcoming draft is very fortunate for the Falcons however. Multiple elite tackles to choose from.
O-Line can be greatly influenced by coaching as well. Titans generally have had very good O-Lines for the last 10 yrs or more, despite not spending a high draft pick on an OL in a very long time (Warmack obviously notwithstanding)
In 2010 the 49ers drafted Anthony Davis and Mike Iupati with their two first round picks. That worked out pretty well didn't it?
From ESPN debating on the crazy notion of taking either Alex Smith or Kaep:
Matt Williamson: I would way, way rather have Kaepernick. He is capable of extreme greatness. Smith is not. I am not worried about Kaepernick long-term. His weapons are really lacking.
Hmmmm....someone else has been saying the same thing.
Matt Williamson: I would way, way rather have Kaepernick. He is capable of extreme greatness. Smith is not. I am not worried about Kaepernick long-term. His weapons are really lacking.
Hmmmm....someone else has been saying the same thing.
Kaep is definitely not on that level and I never said he was RIGHT NOW. I do believe he will get there.
I go back and forth on Gordon. He would probably cost at least a second round pick and while the 49ers have 6 picks in the first three rounds for this years draft I do worry about his off the field problems considering we already have Aldon/Baldwin.
zitothebrave
Connoisseur of Minors
Wait you're saying that you never said Kaep was great now? Lulz.
I never said he was a top 5 QB now.
Please find when I said that. The top 5 QB's make their receivers better.
Tapate50
Well-known member
I pull that trigger then. 6 picks in the firs 3 rounds is crazy. Gordon is gonna be a good one. He has it all. If you pick up Gordon, you could trade Baldwin. He won't see the field when Crabby comes back.
I actually like Baldwin long term. He is just such a dumb ass that it takes long to learn a playbook. If you look he produced a little with a horrible QB in KC. If he is the fourth option at WR in this offense then I think he could have big year next year.
Regarding trading for Gordon, I just worry about him getting suspended for a year. He would cost more than a 2nd rounder obviously if that wasn't the case but its risky. I love that Baalke has all these picks. 49ers are masterful at the draft aside from the dreadful 2012 one.
Tapate50
Well-known member
One of the best in the business for sure.
Baldwin has always been known as a knucklehead. Problem is, you are missing opportunities waiting on him to develop. Gordon is such a talent that he will always appeal to someone at some price. Its not a sunk cost like the Baldwin aquisition (to me at least). I would do it. It could mean a Super Bowl this year, after all ...isn't that what the 9ers are playing for?
I suppose you are right. Luckily the 49ers are in a position where they can take that risk. Another thing to consider is that they can evaulate who they want long term between Crabtree and Gordon. The talks will be ongoing until the deadline and I think the 49ers are just waiting to see the progress of Crabtree from his injury. He was really emerging last year as one of the best WR's in football.
zitothebrave
Connoisseur of Minors
Top 5 is great? The lulz!
It isn't? How many great QB's are there in the league right now?
yeezus
It's OVER 5,000!
Dude you definitely hyped Kaep up like crazy, regardless of whether or not you said he was great "right now." You spoke as if he had no flaws and was already well on his way to being top 5. Truth is, he is leagues behind Manning, Brady, Brees, Rodgers and there are a handful of other QBs who are better right now. Lack of weapons or not, he was awful for two weeks. Like, really, really bad, and very good QBs don't often look that bad two weeks in a row. He tore up a weak GB defense and the Rams. He was 6/15 last week. He's been underwhelming to say the least, injuries or not. If he was as great and flawless and you were proclaiming before the season, he would be playing much, much better. You and everyone else expected much more from him so far this year.
I said I believe he will be a great Qb. Never ever said he was top 5 already. Of course his performance so far this year has me dissapointed. How could it not? But, I am willing to hold out final judgement until he finally has some healthy options out there on the field. Last time Davis was healthy the offense was dominant. I expect the same when Manningham/Crab come back in addition to Davis getting healthy.
Kaep still has ridiculous potential and my long term outlook has not changed about him. What I don't understand is why you guys think its crazy that I think the way I do about him. There have been MANY others that follow the game for a living who have said the same things about Kaep so maybe thats closer to the truth then anyone here wants to admit.
yeezus
It's OVER 5,000!
It's not that I "don't want to admit anything." But, watching him this year, there are obvious flaws to me. His throwing motion is really not great. I believe he could be really good. I stated that in the off-season when we talked about this. But there are definite concerns that he must refine, and it has nothing to do with his weapons. Does he need a plethora of completely healthy weapons to not suck? That's not good.
I believe they are holding his running back until the playoffs. Its better for his development to be a pocket passer and use his running only when the play breaks down.
He had two awful games this season. One in Seattle which he has demons to exercise and another against Indy without Vernon so he basically had Boldin and a bunch of guys who aren't that good or aren't ready to be contributors.
You will say these are excuses but against the Texans (not sure if you saw the game) he had Vernon wide open on the sideline and threw him a pass that if Vernon was even slightly healthy he would have caught it. Even the announcers said that was the first time they could visably notice that Davis wasn't running well. Another ball he threaded the needle to Davis that while it wasn't an easy catch it was dropped. Kaep put it in the absolute perfect spot in between defenders where only his guy could make the catch. All of a sudden his game looks a lot better if those plays are made and will be made when Davis gets healthy.
Also, it was clear the 49ers were going to destroy the Texans mid way through the second quarter. There was no reason to try and run any plays with a depleted WR/TE unit. Schaub is a horrible QB.