2018 Offseason And Targets

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bravesfanMatt said:
Hey, a bryce rumor linked to Braves. Hot damn. **Click**. Mother****er is just speculating.

I sure hope there aren’t any Braves fan still believing we are going to land Harper
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I don't know what you are talking about. The Braves have a lot to offer....like a $5m a year salary plus free checking and savings account with Suntrust....how could he turn that down?
 
I could see Boras starting to lose some clients after this year. He plays hard ball with teams and tries going around the GM and straight to the owner and that steps on some toes. Main thing is with how teams are evaluating players now and how much smarter they are now. Teams know they can win with younger cheaper talent and aren’t gonna give out the 10 year deal anymore. Stanton got lucky with his deal and wouldn’t get that if he were a FA now.
 
bravesfanforlife88 said:
I don't know what you are talking about. The Braves have a lot to offer....like a $5m a year salary plus free checking and savings account with Suntrust....how could he turn that down?
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Could we give him the truck Coppy & Company tried to give away a couple years ago?
 
Enscheff said:
The issue is half the teams aren't trying to win, which is decreasing demand for FAs.

The reason half the teams aren't trying to win is revenue sharing has disincentivized winning. Teams make about the same cash losing as they do winning, so why give Harper $400M? Why give some veteran $10M to produce 1.5 wins when a young guy can produce 1 win for $500k?

There was a study I read that concluded no team benefits from a financial point of view by signing a player for more than something like $7M per year, because winning simply doesn't pay for itself.

All these teams content to be non-contenders is the issue. Teams don't bid against themselves because nobody is bidding.
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There's a happy medium to it.

Some teams are maxed out of money and of course some rebuilding teams arent gonna spend. And then of course teams are being more smart and not handing out huge contracts and wanna do higher AAV and shorter years. It's tough.
 
Enscheff said:
The issue is half the teams aren't trying to win, which is decreasing demand for FAs.

The reason half the teams aren't trying to win is revenue sharing has disincentivized winning. Teams make about the same cash losing as they do winning, so why give Harper $400M? Why give some veteran $10M to produce 1.5 wins when a young guy can produce 1 win for $500k?

There was a study I read that concluded no team benefits from a financial point of view by signing a player for more than something like $7M per year, because winning simply doesn't pay for itself.

All these teams content to be non-contenders is the issue. Teams don't bid against themselves because nobody is bidding.
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I know it will absolutely never happen but man oh man do I wish we had pro/rel in US sports. I cannot stand watching teams intentionally lose.
 
Heyward said:
There's a happy medium to it.



Some teams are maxed out of money and of course some rebuilding teams arent gonna spend. And then of course teams are being more smart and not handing out huge contracts and wanna do higher AAV and shorter years. It's tough.
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They should lean into it. In the nba players are going for shorter deals on their own.

Even nfl players like Revis are betting on themselves.

The big guys want long term security and opt outs to maximize it. Grandal can take his 18 million and get more aav. But you have to produce and stay healthy.

Teams want to extend the young guys and those guys are going to bet on themselves more and make big arb numbers.
 
Hudson2 said:
I could see Boras starting to lose some clients after this year. He plays hard ball with teams and tries going around the GM and straight to the owner and that steps on some toes. Main thing is with how teams are evaluating players now and how much smarter they are now. Teams know they can win with younger cheaper talent and aren’t gonna give out the 10 year deal anymore. Stanton got lucky with his deal and wouldn’t get that if he were a FA now.
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I kind of doubt this will have much of an effect on Boras. He knows his way around and if the ten-year deal has gone the way of the dinosaur, he'll turn to cranking up AAV on shorter-term deals.
 
50PoundHead said:
I kind of doubt this will have much of an effect on Boras. He knows his way around and if the ten-year deal has gone the way of the dinosaur, he'll turn to cranking up AAV on shorter-term deals.
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This is where it needs to go anyways.

You have ivy league GMs who are running franchises like businesses now. Having long term financial burdens on the books is just not reasonable.
 
significant portions of the last few CBAs have been negotiated specifically to blunt some of the tactics used by Boras
 
Marlins sign Curtis Granderson to a minor league deal with invite to spring training. He gets $1.75m if he makes the big league team with another $250k in possible incentives
 
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