msstate7
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Ray Allen was an nba player that negotiated his own contract.
http://articles.latimes.com/1999/feb/11/sports/sp-7182
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Ray Allen was an nba player that negotiated his own contract.
http://articles.latimes.com/1999/feb/11/sports/sp-7182
Gary Sheffield did this as well after firing Boras
DontStopTheChop
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CrazyTrain probably thought you were suggesting that Bryce hire Ray Allen as his agent. LOL.
TheRunningAgent
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We don’t know they contract that he has with Harper. I can’t see him negotiating for months and just dropping him with no consequences. I know, being a Realtor, that if I negotiate for a client, they can’t drop me and go on their own without consequences to the agreement I have with them. So, who knows?
msstate7
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I can't imagine they have an agreement where Harper just goes to the highest bidder with or without his consent
CrazyTrain
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Why would a player do this? They are good at baseball, not at being an agent. That's why agents exist. You hire one and they work for you. If they aren't working in your best interest, you fire them and find one who will.
Lawyers are good at reviewing and explaining the legal language of a contract, but they aren't the ones making the business decisions. They advise and you decide. I don't know the specifics of Allen's deal, but I would assume most don't have the skills to do this on their own.
Heyward
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The DH is coming to the NL soon, and Riley hasnt shown enough to replace Donaldson right now.
Stances on silly issues like this is why the MLBPA has lost so much power to the owners the last decade...
MLB’s new proposal features a willingness to push back the implementation of a pitch clock until after the current CBA expires, per the report. Commissioner Rob Manfred has the power to implement the clock unilaterally but is evidently willing to utilize it as a bargaining chip. It remains to be seen whether the players will make concessions in other areas to oppose such an unpopular but financially neutral rule change.
Giving up money for things like this, and then complaining that they aren't getting money, is pretty dumb.
MLB’s new proposal features a willingness to push back the implementation of a pitch clock until after the current CBA expires, per the report. Commissioner Rob Manfred has the power to implement the clock unilaterally but is evidently willing to utilize it as a bargaining chip. It remains to be seen whether the players will make concessions in other areas to oppose such an unpopular but financially neutral rule change.
Giving up money for things like this, and then complaining that they aren't getting money, is pretty dumb.
If you are smart and know what you want, an agent isn't needed. I don't know the general rate for agents, but I would guess it's in the neighborhood of 5 percent. So save that money instead of paying someone else to do it.
An agent is a salesman, so it isn't surprising our brilliant sales engineer thinks they are integral to the sport.
Like any other salesman, they need their clients to think the process is too complicated for them to navigate without help from the agent.
Fact of the matter is most MLB players are likely smart enough to represent themselves if they wanted to do so. An agency could sell a "standard contract" with all the typical player protections and clauses for players to use, and the players could take a look around and determine a fair price for their services.
Like any other salesman, they need their clients to think the process is too complicated for them to navigate without help from the agent.
Fact of the matter is most MLB players are likely smart enough to represent themselves if they wanted to do so. An agency could sell a "standard contract" with all the typical player protections and clauses for players to use, and the players could take a look around and determine a fair price for their services.
Heyward
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Steve Phillips on twitter- A source indicates that the #Phillies believe their chances of landing Bryce Harper are remote. The obvious question is whether they would pivot to Keuchel and/or Kimbrel. My sense from our interview with Matt Klentak is that they won’t play on Keuchel and only maybe on Kimbrel.
bravesfanforlife88
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Sounds like the Giants held another meeting with Harper yesterday...if that is the case, is there a bidding war going on between the Giants and the Dodgers...that would be awesome to see Philly have the best overall deal and still lose out. Personally, i'd rather him go to the Giants as they are nearing a rebuild, but I think where it stands now is 1. Dodgers 2. Phillies 3. Giants
UNCBlue012
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LMFAO. Trash ass franchise.
I always figured everything the Dodgers have done the last 1+ year has been to get Harper in LA...which is where he wanted to be all along.
If they can come up with some sort of high AAV deal on a shorter term that lets Boras say, "Harper got the highest AAV ever and is going to bet on himself due to the crappy new financial realities of MLB", it could be a win/win.
Something like 6/225 with an opt out before he turns 30, so he can hit the FA market again after the new CBA is figured out.
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Horsehide Harry
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Can you imagine Trout landing there in a couple of years? Pollock, Bellinger, Trout in the OF and Harper at DH with Muncy at 1B and Seager at 3B (by then).
I wonder if they have insurance on Kershaw.
Tapate50
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I thought it was reported they withdrew their offer?
That would make their chances remote indeed.
Heyward
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Thats from a fake account that isnt very credible.
But Paul Crane said yesterday SF is willing to go 10 years, were only going 3.
TheRunningAgent
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Of course not. But, what he probably has is a clause that says Bryce can’t drop him while he is negotiating and if he does, Boras gets paid. Again, that’s how it is in real estate. If my client drops me while we are in negotiations, I still get paid. So, he probably can’t just drop him.
May Be something like 5 years and 140 million, but heavily front loaded with an opt after year 3 and 4. So something like 40, 35 , 35, 20, 10. Would almost guarantee Harper opts out in 3 years and also lessens the luxury tax hit.
So much for this theory...
All of the teams still engaged with Harper’s camp — including, presumably, the Dodgers and Phillies — are discussing contracts of at least one decade in length, per Henry Schulman of the San Francisco Chronicle
If all 3 teams are willing to go 10 years, why in the hell did this take so long?
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