What to do with Uggla now?

Someone with computer savvy might want to pull down Hal McCoys blog from the Dayton newspaper re: Phillips/Uggla.
If everything we have ever heard about the button down clubhouse in Atlanta is true then Phillips will never be a Brave. But why doubt that DOB and conjured up this rumor (thats what we do). Maybe both teams are so desperate that they have no other recourse. Reading McCoy's article, there may be no other interest in Phillips and when you leave Uggla off the post season roster for Janish and Johnson it says just where you value his services.
 
PawPawMaxwell said:
Someone with computer savvy might want to pull down Hal McCoys blog from the Dayton newspaper re: Phillips/Uggla.
If everything we have ever heard about the button down clubhouse in Atlanta is true then Phillips will never be a Brave. But why doubt that DOB and conjured up this rumor (thats what we do). Maybe both teams are so desperate that they have no other recourse. Reading McCoy's article, there may be no other interest in Phillips and when you leave Uggla off the post season roster for Janish and Johnson it says just where you value his services.
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Here is that article:

http://www.daytondailynews.com/blogs/content/shared-gen/blogs/dayton/cincinnatireds/
 
The last thing the braves need to do is trade for a guy who is making more money at a position that could be filled by a player making a lot less.

Keep the money for the good players we need to keep.
 
Knucksie said:
The thing that's concerning, besides the length of the contract, is that potential attitude issue. Bobby Cox had the ability to deal with somebody, like Gary Sheffield. Of course, that didn't last very long, and Bobby's obviously not in the dugout anymore.
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The TWO things that are concerning to me are #1. Hal McCoy is a Hall of Fame journalist. His input cant be denied nor ignored.
#2. DOB is a bonafide journalist with lesser credentials than McCoy but never the less, journalistic integrity would mandate that his rumors are not founded in social media nor would they be unconfirmed. Journalist operate under the premise that "You say such but I must have confirmation". The Braves honchos were all in Orlando this past week. Was OBrien with them?????
 
PawPawMaxwell said:
The TWO things that are concerning to me are #1. Hal McCoy is a Hall of Fame journalist. His input cant be denied nor ignored.
#2. DOB is a bonafide journalist with lesser credentials than McCoy but never the less, journalistic integrity would mandate that his rumors are not founded in social media nor would they be unconfirmed. Journalist operate under the premise that "You say such but I must have confirmation". The Braves honchos were all in Orlando this past week. Was OBrien with them?????
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What does any of that have to do with my post?
 
Knucksie said:
What does any of that have to do with my post?
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You stated what is concerning to you. Attitude is not all that concerning to me when it comes to professional athletes and I could give you some pretty good examples. I expounded on what concerns me. Pretty simple really.
 
PawPawMaxwell said:
You stated what is concerning to you. Attitude is not all that concerning to me when it comes to professional athletes and I could give you some pretty good examples. I expounded on what concerns me. Pretty simple really.
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That HOF writer, Hal McCoy, indicated in that blog entry:

The reason is twofold: By dealing Phillips the Reds rid themselves of a contract worth $50 million over the next four years and they rid themselves of a troublesome personality in the clubhouse.
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It's all over baseball, by now, so others (besides just the Reds) would share that concern, before agreeing on any kind of deal for Phillips. It'll be something that has to be managed.

He's a late bloomer, btw. Know how everybody still rants about the Texeira deal? Well, the Expos got raped on the Bartolo Colon trade. Our old pal, Conspiracy Theorist, might suggest that it was Frank Robinson being sent in to wreck the franchise in Montreal to help facilitate the eventual relocation to Washington (something not outside the realm of possibility). Brandon Phillips was actually the centerpiece, at the time, of that deal. Other pieces were Cliff Lee, Grady Sizemore and maybe another player. Phillips didn't really develop in Cleveland.
 
They can pay half his salary and I would do Uggla straight up if they are that desperate.

We shouldn't send anyone their way, no one, nada, zilch if we going to take on those years and salary.
 
AerchAngel said:
They can pay half his salary and I would do Uggla straight up if they are that desperate.

We shouldn't send anyone their way, no one, nada, zilch if we going to take on those years and salary.
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Half of whose salary? Uggla's or Phillips'?
 
Knucksie said:
That HOF writer, Hal McCoy, indicated in that blog entry:

It's all over baseball, by now, so others (besides just the Reds) would share that concern, before agreeing on any kind of deal for Phillips. It'll be something that has to be managed.

He's a late bloomer, btw. Know how everybody still rants about the Texeira deal? Well, the Expos got raped on the Bartolo Colon trade. Our old pal, Conspiracy Theorist, might suggest that it was Frank Robinson being sent in to wreck the franchise in Montreal to help facilitate the eventual relocation to Washington (something not outside the realm of possibility). Brandon Phillips was actually the centerpiece, at the time, of that deal. Other pieces were Cliff Lee, Grady Sizemore and maybe another player. Phillips didn't really develop in Cleveland.
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Lee Stevens and Tim Drew were involved, Drew going to the Expos and Stevens to the Indians, Stevens finished his major league career that season. Tim Drew pitched in Montreal for 2 years before becoming a junk reliever for the Braves in 04 and that was the end of his major league career.
 
Dalyn said:
Half of whose salary? Uggla's or Phillips'?
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Phillips.

If they want to get rid of him that bad, we will take him, if they pay half of his salary and they get Ugly and only Ugly in return.

If they don't like those terms, keep him.

We got screwed enough in deals to last for a lifetime, but I did forget to read the fineprint in the memo, we are into getting screwed trades, division only crowns and our fanbase and owners are happy with that.
 
AerchAngel said:
Phillips.

If they want to get rid of him that bad, we will take him, if they pay half of his salary and they get Ugly and only Ugly in return.

If they don't like those terms, keep him.

We got screwed enough in deals to last for a lifetime, but I did forget to read the fineprint in the memo, we are into getting screwed trades, division only crowns and our fanbase and owners are happy with that.
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I would do it if they paid all of Uggla's and half of Phillips'.
 
All I have to contribute to this thread is that anyone who would trade Heyward after his 2nd half is a moron.
 
AerchAngel said:
Phillips.

If they want to get rid of him that bad, we will take him, if they pay half of his salary and they get Ugly and only Ugly in return.

If they don't like those terms, keep him.

We got screwed enough in deals to last for a lifetime, but I did forget to read the fineprint in the memo, we are into getting screwed trades, division only crowns and our fanbase and owners are happy with that.
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That's the only way I'd do it. I'd be ok with that because it wouldn't hurt us long term, basically CIncy would be kicking in the cash to pay Phillips' last 2 seasons and I could cope with that. Would rather have Tommy out there but I also wouldn't mind seeing what a DP tandem of Phillips and Simmons could do.

But that's the ONLY way I do it. I'd toss a non top prospect in as well but I don't really want Phillips, especially with the side drama.
 
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