2019 Trade Deadline Thread:

Carp said:
Sorry, but that's an awful idea. No way is Vazquez worth remotely close to that, and if he was, we should stay far, far away. Brad Hand and Adam Cimber (a rookie reliever having a great year last year) only brought back Francisco Meija, a consensus 60 FV prospect pre-season, but as a catcher who's defense was being questioned, likely was seeing his value decline a bit.
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Agreed. A reasonable price for Vazquez is one of Wilson/Wright/Muller and one or two of Wentz/Davidson/Allard/Ynoa/de la Cruz.
 
Gotta say, I'm beginning to grow pretty unimpressed with the trade deadline possibilities. Maybe grab Diekman on the cheap, bet on the stuff and the strikeout rate?
 
Yup. I don’t think there is enough sellers. I sort of like sitting back and watching the teams chasing us over pay for the guys out there. Then scoop up some value and roll with our depth. It is a win if we continue to weaken our division rivals long term.
 
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I agree. Folks seem to be wanting an elite player back in a trade, which I agree with, but there don't seem to be any elite players available.

I wonder if Haniger could be an option no one is talking about. His name was out there a lot this past offseason and is a potential buy low candidate who could rebound.
 
weso1 said:
I agree. Folks seem to be wanting an elite player back in a trade, which I agree with, but there don't seem to be any elite players available.

I wonder if Haniger could be an option no one is talking about. His name was out there a lot this past offseason and is a potential buy low candidate who could rebound.
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He's hurt until mid-August
 
MadduxFanII said:
Gotta say, I'm beginning to grow pretty unimpressed with the trade deadline possibilities. Maybe grab Diekman on the cheap, bet on the stuff and the strikeout rate?
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There is something to be said for holding on to the prospects and making one or two incremental moves. Big and bold isnt necessarily better if it involves an overpay.
 
weso1 said:
I agree. Folks seem to be wanting an elite player back in a trade, which I agree with, but there don't seem to be any elite players available.

I wonder if Haniger could be an option no one is talking about. His name was out there a lot this past offseason and is a potential buy low candidate who could rebound.
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I wouldnt gut the farm for a rental but if you can get good value for someone, i'm all for that.
 
Heyward said:
We have other than Acuna for the outfield: Camargo, Culberson, Ender, Riley, Markakis, and even Pache could get called up. Would be shocked if they added a bat, not surprising they're linked to pitching.
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I can't remember who first remarked that Pache may be an option for CF rather than acquiring another OFer, but that's an idea we haven't discussed enough as a possibility. He is a few games away from accumulating 500 PAs in AA, and the Braves need a RHH OFer, preferably one who can play CF.

Would he be awesome? Probably not.

Would he be better than Ender and Riley? I could be convinced either way.
 
Enscheff said:
I can't remember who first remarked that Pache may be an option for CF rather than acquiring another OFer, but that's an idea we haven't discussed enough as a possibility. He is a few games away from accumulating 500 PAs in AA, and the Braves need a RHH OFer, preferably one who can play CF.

Would he be awesome? Probably not.

Would he be better than Ender and Riley? I could be convinced either way.
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With the way he has progressed this year, I'd be open to it... will he have an Andruw like impact? Probably not, but we know his defense will be amazing at least and there's still a chance.
 
Rosenthal says we are in on Givens... I'd personally love to see him and Giles come over. Givens on the surface hasn't looked great this year but as Scott Coleman points out on Twitter, since May 31st he has a line of:
1.84 ERA/2.95 FIP/39% K-rate/7% BB-rate

Then see if Wheeler is healthy... if he is, those 3 would be a huge boost.
 
cajunrevenge said:
Well heres something we can agree on. Givens has been torched by the Yankees a few times. Other than that he has been great.
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I agree with you on plenty of things cajun, I just think your hatred for Wright is really really really weird and you can't provide any numbers to back the hatred up.
 
zbhargrove said:
I agree with you on plenty of things cajun, I just think your hatred for Wright is really really really weird and you can't provide any numbers to back the hatred up.
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While I don't dislike Wright as much as Cajun I do remember Enscheff posting the data on Wright's spin rates and how meh they were.

Gausman and Wright were throwing similar velocity with their fastballs against Gnats but Gausman looked to my naked eye to have much more movement. Wright on the other hand was throwing straight darts that weren't fooling anyone. Gaus got a lot of swing and misses on his fastball. Wright got a lot of pitches fouled away.

Perhaps his stuff isn't as good as we hoped. Unfortunately when I watched Wright pitch, seeing a tall lanky guy throw a straight mid 90's fastball reminded me too much of Retisma.
 
Individual-1 said:
While I don't dislike Wright as much as Cajun I do remember Enscheff posting the data on Wright's spin rates and how meh they were.

Gausman and Wright were throwing similar velocity with their fastballs against Gnats but Gausman looked to my naked eye to have much more movement. Wright on the other hand was throwing straight darts that weren't fooling anyone. Gaus got a lot of swing and misses on his fastball. Wright got a lot of pitches fouled away.

Perhaps his stuff isn't as good as we hoped. Unfortunately when I watched Wright pitch, seeing a tall lanky guy throw a straight mid 90's fastball reminded me too much of Retisma.
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Its certainly not as good as we hoped. I think that is pretty clear. But he still registered a very good 2018 peripheral wise, much lower homerun and walk rates. I'm not trying to sit here and say he's going to be an ace, but the worst prospect he's seen in 30 years? Really?

Edit: Actually, in the minors his walk rate has been basically just as good this year... straight fastball mixed with juiced ball looks to be the big difference
 
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