Deadline Winners and Losers?

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Who are this year's deadline winners and losers for you?

I think us, the Astros, Indians, and the D'backs had very good deadlines. Marlins had a sneaky good deadline too.

Losers have to be the Yankees, Blue Jays, and Giants among a few other teams.
 
I think the Padres and Braves were winners as well.

Mets were losers. Should have traded Wheeler, imo. Stroman just doesn't make sense for them.
 
I'd give the Greene trade an A-, the Martin trade a solid B, and the Melancon trade a D. Overall I'd give the three trades an aggregate B-.
 
nsacpi said:
Dbacks and Indians did very well.
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Agreed. Overall, I think the Indians may have gotten the most value out of anyone else at the deadline. But that is mostly because I REALLY like Reyes in the American League. Dude has like 5 years of control and is a monster at the plate.
 
Agree for the most part.

Indians got a ****ing haul for 1.5 years of Bauer. 5 years of Reyes, Puig, Allen, and a few more players as well. Preller be better right about Trammel, because they gave up alot to get him.

Like what we did, would have liked a bat and a rotation piece, but upgraded the pen massively and didnt hurt the farm. Have all our top trade chips for this winter if someone we like becomes available.

Giants holding onto MadBum and Smith makes no sense. They could have gotten good returns for them. Jays didnt get much for the guys they dealt. Yankees not adding a starter is a huge L.

Astros getting Greinke clearly the deadline winner, Biagni/Sanchez sneaky good pickups as well. DBacks return for Greinke is good but it's not absurdly great.
 
Folks aren't taking into account the fact AA didn't address several of the glaring needs going into the deadline...

No LHP

No RHH OFer to platoon with Ender

No SP to push Fried/Gausman to the BP

I gave AA a C- in my breakdown post.
 
Enscheff said:
Folks aren't taking into account the fact AA didn't address several of the glaring needs going into the deadline...

No LHP

No RHH OFer to platoon with Ender

No SP to push Fried/Gausman to the BP

I gave AA a C- in my breakdown post.
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Would have liked Castellanos, Cubs gave up their 16 and 23 prospects to obtain him.

But i do agree, we had other holes that needed to be addressed. Pen is much better but i still have concerns with the rotation, and when we face lefties. AA had a good deadline, kept the farm intact for the most part.
 
Arizona is the winner hands down. Not only did they get out from under an entire large and risky contract, they got 3 nice prospects to do it. Lots of other teams did well, but value wise no one else came close to them.
 
Jaw said:
Arizona is the winner hands down. Not only did they get out from under an entire large and risky contract, they got 3 nice prospects to do it. Lots of other teams did well, but value wise no one else came close to them.
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I dont know about that.

JB is a future RP, Beer is ok, and Martin has a 6 ERA coming off TJ. It's a good haul given his contract but it doesnt make their farm top 3 now or anything.
 
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Enscheff said:
Folks aren't taking into account the fact AA didn't address several of the glaring needs going into the deadline...

No LHP

No RHH OFer to platoon with Ender

No SP to push Fried/Gausman to the BP

I gave AA a C- in my breakdown post.
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He brought Adam Duvall up and signed Lane Adams, so that’s false.

Foltynewicz will push Fried/Gausman to the BP.

No LHP is a more legitimate concern, but Melancon has very favorable splits against LHB.
 
Jaw said:
Arizona is the winner hands down. Not only did they get out from under an entire large and risky contract, they got 3 nice prospects to do it. Lots of other teams did well, but value wise no one else came close to them.
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They also traded their top positional prospect with a ton of upside for a 45 FV pitching prospect who has had good MLB numbers in a small sample. Gallen has looked pretty good early in his career, but I don't like trading Jazz Chisholm for him. Chisholm has a chance to be a big time power bat with really solid defense. If he can figure out how to cut down on the strikeouts, I think the D'backs will really regret making that deal in the future.

Edit: But overall, I think they did really well in the Greinke trade. They got back a ton of assets for a guy with limited surplus value due to his contract, even though they are eating 24 million.
 
AA is committed to ending the First Round Exit Curse.

With the NL Central not looking that strong, we have a very solid chance to get to the NLCS this year.
 
The offense is fine. Duvall will cool off just like Riley did. But I believe in our bench enough to build a competitive offense against any pitching. To the same effect I believe in our rotation despite some concerning starts. I think we upgraded in the right areas. A strong pen can actually help the starters if we had a competent manager. That is the biggest area of concern we didn’t address in my opinion.
 
Enscheff said:
Folks aren't taking into account the fact AA didn't address several of the glaring needs going into the deadline...

No LHP

No RHH OFer to platoon with Ender

No SP to push Fried/Gausman to the BP

I gave AA a C- in my breakdown post.
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I would have liked a bat, preferably a RHH who could play some CF. Don't know who that would have been. I'm not that bent out of shape about Melancon's contract. It's not like we aren't going to need some relief help next season. Who knows what the team's bottom line is, but I think Anthopoulos has earned McGuirk's trust and I can see some cash added for off-season moves.

Overall, I agree with Heyward that Preller really took a flyer. Trammell is a really good prospect, but that's a pretty high price. There have been a lot of moves in the meantime so it's not straightforward, but only Margot remains on the Padres from the Kimbrell deal with Allen moving to the Indians. Can't figure out what the Reds were doing. Bauer is a very good pitcher, but I still see them as being a ways away.
 
Winners:
Braves: Maybe not every need was addressed, but the biggest was. Bullpen not as shaky as it was just hours ago.
Diamondbacks: Yes, Greinke is gone, but got good prospects back to start their rebuild.
Indians: in addition to Puig, got some good young talent.
Astros: Yes it cost them a lot, but Greinke makes them arguably the best team in baseball.

Losers:
Yankees: Huge need in the rotation and didn't address it.
Red Sox: Who's the closer there?
Dodgers: Jansen is not the closer he was. LA needed an upgrade.
Mets: So, what was the point of the Stroman trade?
 
Enscheff said:
Folks aren't taking into account the fact AA didn't address several of the glaring needs going into the deadline...

No LHP

No RHH OFer to platoon with Ender

No SP to push Fried/Gausman to the BP

I gave AA a C- in my breakdown post.
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I think Melancon's slightly reverse splits and Martin's neutral splits make up for not picking up a lefty for the pen.
 
i think it’s dairly difficult to criticize too much when we don’t know what was out there for what price. there wasn’t a ton of movement despite some big moves.

seems AA couldve easily matched or beat the Dickerson deal tho.
 
CrimsonCowboy said:
Winners:
Braves: Maybe not every need was addressed, but the biggest was. Bullpen not as shaky as it was just hours ago.
Diamondbacks: Yes, Greinke is gone, but got good prospects back to start their rebuild.
Indians: in addition to Puig, got some good young talent.
Astros: Yes it cost them a lot, but Greinke makes them arguably the best team in baseball.

Losers:
Yankees: Huge need in the rotation and didn't address it.
Red Sox: Who's the closer there?
Dodgers: Jansen is not the closer he was. LA needed an upgrade.
Mets: So, what was the point of the Stroman trade?
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Not sure why the D'Backs held onto Ray, but I guess they could always trade him in the offseason.
 
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