Deadline Winners and Losers?

I’d have to say the Phillies and gNats are among the losers here as well. The Phillies did not address their pitching needs while the gNats picked up 3 very blah pieces for their pen....

Both teams tied in the WC hunt.
 
bravesfanforlife88 said:
I’d have to say the Phillies and gNats are among the losers here as well. The Phillies did not address their pitching needs while the gNats picked up 3 very blah pieces for their pen....

Both teams tied in the WC hunt.
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uhhh the Phillies picked up THE jason vargas...
 
bravesfanforlife88 said:
I’d have to say the Phillies and gNats are among the losers here as well. The Phillies did not address their pitching needs while the gNats picked up 3 very blah pieces for their pen....

Both teams tied in the WC hunt.
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The Dickerson move was good, Hudson should help the Nats pen too.
 
Enscheff said:
Folks aren't taking into account the fact AA didn't address several of the glaring needs going into the deadline...

No LHP

No RHH OFer to platoon with Ender

No SP to push Fried/Gausman to the BP

I gave AA a C- in my breakdown post.
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Valid points, but we don't know what the price for such acquisitions were. I'm going to assume SP was incredibly expensive this deadline being that most of the best ones "available" didn't get traded.

I'm sure Folty factored into this decision as well. He could easily be that pitcher that shifts Fried to the pen, which would also eliminate the need for a lefty reliever also. And it apears that Riley isn't going anywhere at this point, so hopefully vs LHP we'll see more of the lineup we saw they other night with Riley, Duvall, and Acuna as the starting OF. Camrago could/should factor into that rotation as well.
 
Without getting a SP we pretty much punted this season. We should win the division and we will have a punchers chance but we might as well consider the NLDS to be the world series.
 
Carp said:
Valid points, but we don't know what the price for such acquisitions were. I'm going to assume SP was incredibly expensive this deadline being that most of the best ones "available" didn't get traded.

I'm sure Folty factored into this decision as well. He could easily be that pitcher that shifts Fried to the pen, which would also eliminate the need for a lefty reliever also. And it apears that Riley isn't going anywhere at this point, so hopefully vs LHP we'll see more of the lineup we saw they other night with Riley, Duvall, and Acuna as the starting OF. Camrago could/should factor into that rotation as well.
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All valid points, and I’m sure my take is partly jaded by my elevated testosterone levels wanting to see a bit more improvement. Not alpha level testosterone, but probably level 2...elderly jackrabbit.
 
cajunrevenge said:
Without getting a SP we pretty much punted this season. We should win the division and we will have a punchers chance but we might as well consider the NLDS to be the world series.
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“Punchers chance” is a pretty good description. Only the true super teams have a better chance than that, and folks need to be realistic about the type of team that can be sustained long term with a $120M payroll.
 
cajunrevenge said:
Without getting a SP we pretty much punted this season. We should win the division and we will have a punchers chance but we might as well consider the NLDS to be the world series.
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Going to be hard for anyone to beat Houston at this point.

I will say, if Folty can get back on track, I like our chances. Our lineup stacks up well against anyone.
 
Carp said:
Going to be hard for anyone to beat Houston at this point.

I will say, if Folty can get back on track, I like our chances. Our lineup stacks up well against anyone.
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Right now we are all talking about the trades. But I think the most important developments of the past week are what we are seeing from Duvall and Inciarte.

I think we have more than a sluggers chance.
 
If we get past the NLDS, I will consider that my world series victory. Anything else is just icing on cake.

I just wanna remember the feeling of seeing us play in a Best of 7 playoff series again. Last time it happened I was 11 years old.
 
nsacpi said:
Right now we are all talking about the trades. But I think the most important developments of the past week are what we are seeing from Duvall and Inciarte.

I think we have more than a sluggers chance.
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If Duvall can bring decent power to the lineup and hit around .260 I consider that an upgrade... anything Ender brings to the plate is gravy (Bowman’s excited)
 
Carp said:
Going to be hard for anyone to beat Houston at this point.

I will say, if Folty can get back on track, I like our chances. Our lineup stacks up well against anyone.
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On the plus side if we actually do make it to the world series I could go to a game.
 
I think after this trade deadline, we are pretty solid favorites to make it to the NLCS. If we can pull that off, we have a solid ~30% shot to knock off the Dodgers in 7 games. Given our budget, I think that is about as good as you could hope for from year to year. We also have a small chance that the wild card team can knock off the Dodgers in 5, which would greatly increase our odds of making the World Series.

This doesn't feel like a World Series team, but all we need is a little bit of luck and we can get there for sure.
 
BeanieAntics said:
I think after this trade deadline, we are pretty solid favorites to make it to the NLCS. If we can pull that off, we have a solid ~30% shot to knock off the Dodgers in 7 games. Given our budget, I think that is about as good as you could hope for from year to year. We also have a small chance that the wild card team can knock off the Dodgers in 5, which would greatly increase our odds of making the World Series.

This doesn't feel like a World Series team, but all we need is a little bit of luck and we can get there for sure.
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I see the probabilities as follows:

70% to win division (per FG)
60% to win division round playoff series if we make it
40% to win NLCS if we make it
40% to win WS if we make it

Mind you this is extremely overly simplified but that puts you into that 6-10% likelihood range of winning a WS which is a fantastic situation to be in. (538 has us at 7%, FWIW)

Anytime you are a clear favorite to win your division, then you need to put yourself in a position to win a World Series. If anything, I would have preferred if AA was more aggressive and added both a starting pitcher and an outfielder. There’s no guarantee this team will be in this same position next year.
 
Carp said:
Going to be hard for anyone to beat Houston at this point.

I will say, if Folty can get back on track, I like our chances. Our lineup stacks up well against anyone.
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Meh. They are great and it's easy to predict an Astros/Dodgers WS. But that's the beauty (or curse) of the MLB playoffs. The Dodgers have been in this decade what the Braves were in the 90s and still haven't won a WS.
 
bravesfanforlife88 said:
If Duvall can bring decent power to the lineup and hit around .260 I consider that an upgrade... anything Ender brings to the plate is gravy (Bowman’s excited)
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Getting the ~2 WAR version of Duvall and the ~3 WAR version of Ender for the stretch run would be huge and better than any impact trade made yesterday minus Greinke. Now we just have to hope that Folty can somehow find his way.
 
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