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sturg33
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Stossel found that nobody has promised more freebies than Harris
cajunrevenge
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It's a 3 person race. These other people are just trying to get their name out there. Name recognition is far more valuable than good policies unfortunately.
sturg33
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@50, I'd also be curious where you have determined the right has gone just far as the left. I asked twice earlier in thread when someone made a similar comment. But what policies have been enacted, or even proposed, from Republicans, that are well out of the mainstream of the party's history?
The left has proposed taking over energy, healthcare, education, cancelling debt, aborting children through entire pregnancy, full health coverage for illegal immigrants, decriminilizing the boarder, actual confiscation of guns from law abiding citizens, the green new deal - which i won't even bother rehashing the insanity, and so on so forth
It seems to me one party has completely raced to socialism. The other has stayed put... the only thing I would say the right has actually done outside of their norm is spend money like a leftist.
Curious if you could elaborate
The left has proposed taking over energy, healthcare, education, cancelling debt, aborting children through entire pregnancy, full health coverage for illegal immigrants, decriminilizing the boarder, actual confiscation of guns from law abiding citizens, the green new deal - which i won't even bother rehashing the insanity, and so on so forth
It seems to me one party has completely raced to socialism. The other has stayed put... the only thing I would say the right has actually done outside of their norm is spend money like a leftist.
Curious if you could elaborate
acesfull86
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Idk if people are immune to vast sums of money, or just don’t care, but $2 trillion is an extraordinary sum for “educational improvements “ at a tiny subset of colleges and universities. According to Wikipedia, there are only 101 HBCU’s in the country.
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Seriously?
This is what happens when your campaign was hopeless from the beginning. She is the biggest of frauds amongst a whole collection of frauds.
I won't speak for 50 because well he wouldn't want me to to nor could I ever hold his gained knowledge over time but I find it astonishing that anyone could even make such a claim after what we have seen the last decade.
Obama is a centrist compared to what is on the ticket right now and he was a radical 10 years ago.
nsacpi
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i'm not 50 and he will i'm hopeful provide his own thoughts
but I would cite the "racialization" of immigration policy
we have a President who has:
1) had one senior advisor (Bannon) who has cited Camp of the Saints as one of his favorite books, a book about "population replacement" in western countries
2) had another senior advisor (Miller) who has stoked nativist fears by claiming that thousands of Americans are dying each year due to illegal immigration
3) who has himself demonized an entire group of people as rapists and criminals
4) who has himself said a federal judge could not perform his job in an impartial manner due to his Mexican ancestry
5) who has expressed a preference for more immigrants from Norway and fewer from ****hole countries
6) whose administration crafted a policy of making life as difficult and miserable as possible for asylum applicants from central America in order to deter such applications
7) who has been happy to stoke the xenophobic fears that his political base has about the browning of America
The aslyum system is completely broken. The true definition of asylum is not what people are claiming is happening to them.
So, on cue, you just stick to the fact that you don't like this administration is trying to stop open borders which is a RADICAL SHIFT from what the historical left in this country believed when they actually cared about American workers.
So, on cue, you just stick to the fact that you don't like this administration is trying to stop open borders which is a RADICAL SHIFT from what the historical left in this country believed when they actually cared about American workers.
sturg33
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From what I'm reading, you essentially boiling it down to one issue and from essentially one President and applying that to the entire GOP.
And, from a policy standpoint, I'm not seeing a lot meat there.
But even with your issues, I dont see how means the party has raced to the radical right like the proposed policies of the dems
YMMV
nsacpi
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We have laws and judges for making these determinations. I'm happy to let the process run its course and allow the cases to be adjudicated. And I think the laws and administrative processes on the books are not inconsistent with treating the asylum applicants in a humane manner.
nsacpi
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I provided an answer to your question.
You asked for radical departures from past policy positions. ("what policies have been enacted, or even proposed, from Republicans, that are well out of the mainstream of the party's history?"). The racialization of immigration policy would be one.
I think you might also agree that current trade policy represents a fairly sharp break with traditional GOP orthodoxy. That would make two.
sturg33
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I do agree but it's not going to the radical right... I'd say the GOP has gone more left than right over the years.
YMMV
Of course you don't want to Opine - The answer is obvious. There is no oppressive governments that are taking away citizens rights. These are economic migrants looking for a better life. There is a method of immigration that permits these types of individuals to gain access to the country but they are willfully choosing to ignore those.
Aslyum applicants can do so in their home country but again they have been coached to do otherwise and you know this but its against your own personal bias so you will never admit it.
This administration is actually stopping the radicalization of our immigration laws so while you may not have realized it you have proven an example why the administration and the republican party is staying more in line with historical norms while at the same time the democrats have shifted radically out of the mainstream.
nsacpi
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so racialization of immigration policy is a move to the center?
sturg33
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I was responding to your tariff comment.
Sounds like you one singular issue you could argue the GOP has shifted to the right on.
Where I've listed a dozen leftist issues.
I dont see how they are at all comparable in their radicalism
What is the radicalization? Stopping open borders?
What would you say proposing decriminalization of illegal border crossings represents? How about the abolishment of ICE?