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Can Uggla run 80' from a standstill before 2 MLB players can throw a ball 100' and 90' (in the scenario where the ball dropped in CF rather than LF)?

I know you are playing devils advocate but I have watched that video about 15 times and there is no way anyone would be able to double up any runners even if the LF was standing over the ball. No outfielder would even attempt that move from that distance as the throws to the bases is a less than sure thing being that far out. I am all for the rule protecting the runners but at some point it is just letting the defense off the hook.
 
Can Uggla run 80' from a standstill before 2 MLB players can throw a ball 100' and 90' (in the scenario where the ball dropped in CF rather than LF)?

He'd probably be thrown out, but depending on how well the outfielder handled the bounce and how strong his arm is its conceivable that he could make it close in that situation. Plus the double play just isn't going to happen, so the worst case scenario in that situation is that the lead runner is thrown out, the same thing that happens sometimes to a runner on 1st on in between pop ups to RF or CF. But all I was really pointing out was that Uggla wasn't tagging there.
 
If they could have turned a double play, then why didn’t they? They didn’t even get one out. Holliday was on the ball quickly, and they had no idea the infield fly rule had been called.

Saying it wasn’t a terrible call is just being a contrarian.
 
If they could have turned a double play, then why didn’t they? They didn’t even get one out. Holliday was on the ball quickly, and they had no idea the infield fly rule had been called.

Saying it wasn’t a terrible call is just being a contrarian.

Cheff was talking in hyperbole. Saying if the RF was camped under the ball at that depth but then let the ball drop trying to catch guys napping on the bases, we would be screaming that it should have been called an infield fly rule. However I just don’t see anyway from that distance you could get both runners out. Probably uggla if the ball bounced true and you made a strong good throw
 
Cheff was talking in hyperbole. Saying if the RF was camped under the ball at that depth but then let the ball drop trying to catch guys napping on the bases, we would be screaming that it should have been called an infield fly rule. However I just don’t see anyway from that distance you could get both runners out. Probably uggla if the ball bounced true and you made a strong good throw

It wouldn't have happened. I have serious doubts they would have even gotten Uggla at 3B.
 
I know you are playing devils advocate but I have watched that video about 15 times and there is no way anyone would be able to double up any runners even if the LF was standing over the ball. No outfielder would even attempt that move from that distance as the throws to the bases is a less than sure thing being that far out. I am all for the rule protecting the runners but at some point it is just letting the defense off the hook.

Did I say LF, or did I say "in the scenario where the ball dropped in CF rather than LF"?
 
If they could have turned a double play, then why didn’t they? They didn’t even get one out. Holliday was on the ball quickly, and they had no idea the infield fly rule had been called.

Saying it wasn’t a terrible call is just being a contrarian.

Again, the rule doesn't protect against misplays. The rule protects against intentionally dropped pop ups.

That was not an intentionally dropped pop up.
 
It wouldn't have happened. I have serious doubts they would have even gotten Uggla at 3B.

Uggla at 3B would have been a force, and would have been a given from LF.

I'm tlaking about a hypothetical double play when Ender lets the ball fall, throws to 2nd, then off to 3B.
 
You my friend are a true dickhead for posting this. It literally makes my eyes burn with anger. The travesty of this is Maddux didn’t get the same zone and really didn’t exploit it like Hernandez did.

But really you are not a dickhead. I don’t think.

6 foot zone that was giving to their picthers?

Why did you remind me of this nightmare?

not you Matt, the original poster. Effing pitches was like almost a good foot off the plate.

It was literally the worst called game in history in how badly we got screwed. The hitters had no chance unless their bats was two foot longer.
 
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That's F'n gross.

I don’t understand to this day how in the world an umpire can be allowed to call one of those a strike, much less the ~50 pitches a foot outside he called a strike. Absolutely astonishing. I remember watching that game with my grandparents, but was only 15 so I don’t recall if anyone got ejected for arguing. Lol if Bobby didn’t then it’s a miracle. And how come none of the umps didn’t step in and say, “c’mon dude, it’s too obvious what you’re doing. Hold back a little.” And was there any meadow push back on how bad this was? Someone should tweet this out to Intentional Talk on MLB Network or any of their shows to remind them just how bad umpiring has always been.
 
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