Global Events & Politics Überthread
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Oh hey - Another 'recession' type prediction that never has a time frame to come to fruition.
But thats cool - You are now the party of wanting to stay in a never ending war. If that is not the case then I'd love to know what conditions would exist to ever leave.
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goldfly
<B>if my thought dreams could be seen</B>
I love takes like this from self described pro life people
I remember them when they get on their bull**** soap box and preach how they claim all life is precious
Runnin
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Why would we need to leave? The troops that were pulled out weren't fighting so much as keeping a fight from starting.
Rarely have two sides fought over an issue so ferociously only for both to get it so wrong.
First, U.S. President Donald Trump announced almost a year ago that he would be pulling U.S. ground troops out of Syria. He failed to do so. And then, last week, he blessed an invasion into northern Syria by Turkey, which he is now punishing through sanctions for its conduct. The only constant is that Trump claims to want to end “endless wars” while doing nothing of the sort.
His most prominent critics, for their part, have seized on Trump’s mess to demand an open-ended mission in Syria—and thus another unending deployment in the Middle East.
Both sides have put forward the fiction that Trump, who has sent 14,000 more troops to the Middle East since May, is actually reducing the U.S. military presence there. Neither offers any way for the United States to disentangle itself from the region. Indeed, the only hope of escape begins with identifying the common flaw in their logic.
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
isnt it a form of wishful thinking that we can "disentangle" ourselves from the region
Runnin
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Yes, and it's naive and ignorant to claim that our leaders even want to disentangle.
the United States is fighting in at least seven countries: Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Niger, Somalia, Syria, and Yemen.
Trump currently says about 1,000 of the U.S. troops in Syria will be sent elsewhere in the Middle East. Relocation is not departure.
He's a rogue President, weak and uninformed, being pushed around by other world leaders.
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This is only the case because we have been assured by really smart people that we have to stay.
sturg33
I
Sure
How did we betray the kurds? Because we didnt stay forever? And which faction if the kurds did we betray exactly?
Israel is more than equipped to protect themselves.
Runnin
Well-known member
Why ask me? The headlines have been filled with military and foreign policy experts saying the same thing. I guess what they promised that if they helped us we'd stand by them, since they are a minority people surrounded by enemies.
We should've made a deliberate withdrawal that didn't suddenly leave them naked and one where we didn't have to blow up our own assets. Trump blindsided not only the Kurds, but also his own military, who by the way are now making contingency plans for his next hare-brained idea.
Runnin
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Your tax dollars at work.
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nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
actually we've given isolationism a try...several tries
Interventionism sure went better for us
Its important to support the only democracy in the middle east. Wouldnt you agree?