Impeachment

When did Ukraine become a hostile actor in this? This whole “Vindman is a double agent” thing rests on the assumption that Ukraine would have a double agent in the WH in the first place.

You are witnessing a splinter section of the US right now in trying to 'get Trump'. You don't think this happens in other countries but multiple times over with their own leaders?
 
Please continue guys - This stuff is real serious and the American people really care about it. Will do well at the polls.
 
For anyone that is undecided as of today I would be comfortable in saying that its barely a top 10 issue facing them.

Lol what?

Majority of Americans support impeachment at this point. 83 percent of Dems and 44 percent of independents and over 11 percent of Republicans. You are insane if you think this isn't an issue.
 
Lol what?

Majority of Americans support impeachment at this point. 83 percent of Dems and 44 percent of independents and over 11 percent of Republicans. You are insane if you think this isn't an issue.

83% of Dems are ~100% likely to vote for the Dem regardless of this impeachment hearing or not.

Dems will also put a socialist on the ticket so that will be the overriding factor for Independents and Republicans.

Outside of the coasts there is a small percentage of people that actually care about this.

They like that there is more money in their pockets and that something is being done about illegal immigration.
 
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/tr...exander-s-vindman-s-prepared-remarks-n1073156




Today's witness Vindman has released his opening statement. Sonfland got some splaning to do. Bolton looking even more like a key witness. Republicans are going to look real bad trying to discredit this many witnesses in a trial setting.

Really, the transcript says it all. President of Ukraine talks about military aid. chosen one cuts him off to say that he needs a "favor." The only available defense argument is that the transcript shows a "perfect" call as chosen one puts it. The witnesses are gravy. Well, maybe I am not taking into account the political aspect of this. Having compelling and credible witnesses testifying in public session could move the polls some more.
 
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If this was going to be a trial by the usual jurors it's a spam dunk, but with Republicans holding 53 votes out of 100 it's going to take an avalanche of evidence. Trump and his base losing their minds during the trial will do as lunch as the actual evidence to sway public opinion further away.
 
It would be interesting to know if he’d ever received as many questions/consultations/memorializations over one issue as over Ukraine aid and the associated “deliverables.”
 
It would be interesting to know if he’d ever received as many questions/consultations/memorializations over one issue as over Ukraine aid and the associated “deliverables.”

Eisenberg is a pro and has had an honorable career up to now. I wonder how this plays out for him. His client in this situation is the United States government.
 
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https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/tr...exander-s-vindman-s-prepared-remarks-n1073156




Today's witness Vindman has released his opening statement. Sonfland got some splaning to do. Bolton looking even more like a key witness. Republicans are going to look real bad trying to discredit this many witnesses in a trial setting.

This is the exact reason these interviews were done privately, to prevent the witnesses from coordinating a message. Interview them all first and see which stories line up to filter the BS (Sondland).

This is why the GOP members in house loyal to DT kept shouting and demanding transparency and an open setting (which was going to come anyways). Those political theatrics were all there to just stir up emotions for trumpets like thethe to get them energized.
 
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