The Trump Presidency
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nsacpi
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One of chosen one's signature policy initiatives has been an attempt to racialize immigration policy. It has not been completely successful, but not for lack of trying. It has somewhat been lost in the shuffle the past few days but the revelations about Mr. Miller's affinity for white nationalist ideas is a timely reminder of the ideological underpinnings behind the push to racialize immigration policy.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/13/us/politics/stephen-miller-white-nationalism.html
A batch of leaked emails obtained by a civil rights advocacy group show that Stephen Miller, the White House adviser with a direct hand in shaping President Trump’s hard-line immigration policies, promoted theories popular with white nationalist groups to an editor at a prominent conservative publication before he joined the administration.
#MAGA
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/13/us/politics/stephen-miller-white-nationalism.html
A batch of leaked emails obtained by a civil rights advocacy group show that Stephen Miller, the White House adviser with a direct hand in shaping President Trump’s hard-line immigration policies, promoted theories popular with white nationalist groups to an editor at a prominent conservative publication before he joined the administration.
#MAGA
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
It's HIS emails and HIS choices as to links and content.
How dare someone traffic in ideas that others dont like. The horror!
What you're saying is if a racist group likes an idea then that idea is off limits?
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
I'm not interested in policing ideas...but I do think it is a bad idea to racialize immigration policy on the basis of white nationalism
People bring their awful ideas with them and will turn America into a socialist country. It's already happening and I will support keeping America true to its founding. Freedom.
Sure...that's what's happening here.
Even still these types of ideas should be allowed to be discussed without economic recourse
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
I hate to break the news to you but immigrants have a greater appreciation of the ideas that this country was founded upon than the native born
And yet polling numbers show otherwise.
Not sure why you deny these things similar to polling data in the middle east.
Jaw
It's OVER 5,000!
I am curious about the research behind this, because it sounds like something that would be found on the sidebar of HuffPo or Breitbart.
Who funded it?
Did they survey legal immigrants or illegal immigrants?
Melting pot immigrants or salad bowl immigrants?
Are survey results broken down by country of origin? Race? Religion?
"the ideas that this country was founded upon" as espoused by who? Did they have to read the entire Declaration of Independence and give a thumbs up or thumb down?
What are the demographics of the "native born" who were polled? Are they broken out by state? Political party?
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
I made the assertion more as a bit of chest thumping than anything else. I am an immigrant. I have a wide circle of family members, friends and acquaintances who are also immigrants. It is fair to describe my assertion as one having more of an anecdotal basis than a hard scientific one. I certainly have nothing but respect for people born in this country. And I don't think it is asking for too much to expect some reciprocity for myself and my fellow immigrants. Thus my rhetorical flourish in responding to another poster's claim that "people bring their awful ideas with them and will turn America into a socialist country." I believe that statement has much less basis in reality than my claim (admittedly one that contains an element of hyperbole) that immigrants have a greater appreciation of the values upon which this country is based.
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The articles listed and ideology behind them is off limits because that itself is racist. Obama could come out tomorrow in support of the same ideology and it doesn't change the fact that it's racist.
The fact that these are some of the principles used in support of US policy is disturbing.
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So mass murdering thousands of Native Americans and stealing their lands, owning slaves, and preventing women from voting. What a very noble cause.
Ah the old we are evil therefore therefore the country needs to be radically changed. Let's just ignore the inconvenient truth that while those are abhorrent things they were norms at the time.
Polling states otherwise.